Swami says that renunciation, meaning the desire for renunciation, should be developed in such a way that even after attaining Indraloka, one is not bound. If one renounces the weak and gets bound to the good, then it cannot be considered renunciation. That is not called renunciation. One renounces what is weak. And then, if it is good, one gets bound. It is written in the talks of Gunatitanand Swami. That Govind Swami set out to become a renunciant. At that time, a king's mother had 10,000 gold coins. And she was beautiful. She set out with that. And she met Govind Swami. She said, "Take this gold and I am with you." So Govind Swami thought in his mind, "This person is walking on the path of God." So, if siddhis come in his way, he considered this as a siddhi siddhi Wealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → This should not be provoked too much. So he said, "Okay. No problem. Let me go to the toilet, I am keeping my cloth here. Let me go to the toilet." Saying so, he clenched his fists and ran away. Can anyone remain like that? But just now we were reading Vasudev Mahatmya, and in that it was written that intellect, that time, turns the intellect in any way. Kalo baliyan. That means it turns the intellect, no matter what kind of intellect. Maharaj Himself said so. In the 33rd or 34th, in the 33rd Vachanamrut of Antya Antya End. Final. Tap to open in glossary → There is no change in the decision. The decision he has taken. So there is no change in that decision. Only when attachment occurs, the decision changes, right? So Govind Swami turned out to be true. Otherwise, in those days, 10,000 gold coins would be worth 10 crores now. At that time, during Govind Maharaj's time, the price of gold was 10 to 15 rupees for 10 tolas. Maybe not even 10 rupees. That was the price. Today, how much is it for 10 tolas? It is 35, 36 thousand. For one tola. And 10 tolas, I mean 10 grams. So I am talking about the price of 10 grams at that time. The price of tola means it is called 10 grams. So now the price of 10 tolas, of 10 grams, is 35, 36 thousand. At that time, the price of 10 grams was 10 rupees. That was the era. And at that time, they brought 10,000 gold coins. So now it would be 10 crores. The price has increased that much. So still, his judgment did not change. His intellect did not change. Time could not change his intellect. But Brother, our Gangama of Jetalpur's dal-bhat turned the intellect. Dal-bhat turned the intellect. So sometimes, even if a person has such a big temptation, the intellect does not change. And they have come after making a lot of renunciation. During Shastriji Maharaj's time, there was a saint. So he had fought so much. That those people were ready to kill him. That if there is a soul, then kill him. But Swami had to be careful. He had to be hidden somewhere. And care had to be taken. Kill him from now on. That much. Once or twice they had picked him up and were ready to kill him. They came after fighting like that. But then, after coming here, it did not remain very stable. And something or the other happened. The line changed. Govind Swami had come after making so much renunciation. And he had kicked both gold and woman and gold and came. But then, to remain constant is very difficult. That is why it is said to be greater than nirvikalpa samadhi. To spend a hundred years of life like that is very difficult. When we set out from home, renunciation is going on in full swing. When we set out from home, how much rush there is. And poor renunciation feels that "I will be broken into pieces, who knows where this will go? And I only have to rush." And then a person starts to behave strangely. Starts to do that. So to remain constant is very difficult. Vairagya might have come at that time. But to preserve it once it has come is very difficult. To preserve it everywhere is said to be much more difficult than preserving this gold. Much more difficult to preserve than samadhi. So when does any person keep it preserved? Engage in good work and keep good company. Mostly, the track changes, what is the reason for that? Mostly. The reason for the track changing mostly is. Either one gets entangled in the five sensory pleasures or then his company changes. In one's own thing, that happens. So it does not remain constant. Govind Swami was like that, yet his intellect changed in Gangama's dal-bhat. That "Very good satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → It happens. This time is such that it chews up vairagya. It is such that it does not remain till the very last breath. Mostly, when one becomes a sadhu and his track changes, when does it change? It changes after becoming big. The track of a good sadhu changes when they become big. If they are weak, it changes in the beginning. And if they are good, it changes when they become big. Why does it change when they become big? Everyone starts to respect, everyone starts to fold hands, starts to say, "Bapji, what service is there, Bapji, what service is there?" So, whatever was churning in Bapji's mind for a long time, he sends for it, that "This" "Bring two seers of that perfume. Bring two seers of perfume." Bapji had never seen in his mind what perfume is like or how much two seers is. "Bring it, two seers will lie here, what is the problem?" So when everyone starts to fold hands to Bapji, then Bapji's track changes. So when there is no devotion to God in the heart, in the jiva, then all this happens. If it has entered the jiva, then no problem. Good company is needed. To be bound to someone good is also a great means. Just doing dharana, parana, chandrayana is not a great means. To remain bound to the good for the whole life, and what did Maharaj say is the greatest obstacle? One becomes careless. To become careless means to become careless of the good. And "Where has the pipe broken without this one? We have so many others." So, "If we go there, our moksha will happen there too, what is the problem?" So one becomes careless. And there is no need. So one can live, but moksha does not happen. There should be a need, and that should be for the good. Everyone keeps it for the dull. Even a donkey is called father. Those who are like donkeys, no one calls a donkey father, father. Farmers call oxen father. A potter does not call a donkey father. Otherwise, again he feels ashamed. That "He is calling this donkey father." To the actual donkey. But those who are like donkeys, don't we have to say to them? Or not? Do you say to anyone or not? We have to say. We have to say. They are just like donkeys. All around. A donkey would only kick. This one even butts. And yet we say, "No, you are doing very well." "Even a good, strong donkey would not kick like this." We have to praise like that. We have to do it in the assembly again. So we have to do that. The desire for renunciation should be developed in such a way that even after attaining Indraloka, one is not bound. Weak Then he is called true. If we have taken the garb of a sadhu, then the garb is called true. That we carry it through till the last breath. Then it is his garb. Otherwise, it is not called garb. If it does not carry through till the last breath. Now it is said even if one has attained Indraloka. Still, he is not bound there. And he gets out of there, crosses over. If mumukshuta has gone deep into his jiva. Then it is called mumukshuta. The meaning of mumukshuta is this. That under any circumstances, one is not bound to sensory pleasures. Not that one has to be dragged out by the ears. We drag out by the ears. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details