Just as space is formless, the shapes like pots that are formed from the earth are not formed from it. Similarly, the creation of Brahma and others This is Maharaj's strong logic. No one can overtake the manifest. Otherwise, they cannot say. Everyone experiences this. That no shape is formed from space. And this creation is with form. Even those who believe in the formless have to accept this. They run to the kitchen to eat in the afternoon, even while believing in the formless. So who received the food offering? It cannot be offered to the formless, so who does it apply to? Because the entire animate and inanimate creation comes from God. If God were formless, how could a creation with form come from Him? Just as space is formless, the shapes like pots that are formed from the earth are not formed from it. Similarly, since the creation of Brahma and others is with form, the Supreme Lord who created it must also be with form. And in the Bhagavatam, it is said that the basis of the three—Adhyatma, Adhibhuta, and Adhideva—is the form of God. Listen as we talk about that. The word 'swarup' has been used by Maharaj as a synonym for 'murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → In the first Vachanamrut, Maharaj says to keep the mind constantly fixed on God's form, and God's murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → So when Maharaj uses the word 'swarup', He uses it in connection with the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → And in the Bhagavatam, it is said that the basis of the three—Adhyatma, Adhibhuta, and Adhideva—is the form of God. Listen as we talk about that. Adhyatma, which is the senses of the Virat Purusha; Adhibhuta, which is his five great elements; and Adhideva, which is the deities of the senses of the Virat—even though all of these entered the Virat, the Virat did not stand up. Then, when Vasudev Bhagwan, taking the form of Purusha, entered the Virat Purusha, the Virat Purusha stood up. That God dwells immanently within the Adhyatma, Adhibhuta, and Adhideva of the Virat Purusha. And in His essential form, He is distinct from the Virat. And He alone is said to be the form worthy of taking refuge in. And just as fire is formless in the form of light, but fire itself is personified. When fire suffered from indigestion, the personified fire came to Shri Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → Indra Indra The king of the devs. He resides in Svarg-Lok. Tap to open in glossary → Purushottam Purushottam God. Supreme being. Bhagvãn. He is unparalleled, omnipotent and the all-doer, omniscient, omnipresent, the ocean of all forms of bliss, does not have any attributes of Mãyã, divine, always taking birth on earth for Tap to open in glossary → Brahm Brahm 1) The dhãm of Bhagvãn. It is eternal, complete with all gun, luminous, and flawless. Also called Akshar, or Akshar-Brahm, or Akshardhãm. 2) Fourth of the five eternal entities, which transcends everything except Purushottam (jeev, ishvar, Mãyã, and Brahm, and Parbrahm). Tap to open in glossary → Brahm Brahm 1) The dhãm of Bhagvãn. It is eternal, complete with all gun, luminous, and flawless. Also called Akshar, or Akshar-Brahm, or Akshardhãm. 2) Fourth of the five eternal entities, which transcends everything except Purushottam (jeev, ishvar, Mãyã, and Brahm, and Parbrahm). Tap to open in glossary → Purushottam Purushottam God. Supreme being. Bhagvãn. He is unparalleled, omnipotent and the all-doer, omniscient, omnipresent, the ocean of all forms of bliss, does not have any attributes of Mãyã, divine, always taking birth on earth for Tap to open in glossary → murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → The immanent power is all-pervading. Ray means His influence. This light, its ray strikes against the wall here. So what do we call it? Prabha. Prabha means its part. Call it its part, call it a ray, call it prabha, call it effect, in modern language call it effect. His divine power. God pervading, in this it is said, the all-pervading form mentioned here is said to be formless. Then there is another all-pervading power of God, which is of three types. He pervades in a formless way, and God pervades while having a form. In infinite atoms, God pervades while being personified. And He pervades as the immanent controller. And He pervades in the form of light. Light means consciousness. God awakens consciousness. He awakens it directly. Not through anyone's medium. What is written in this? I have translated that Shruti Shruti That which is revealed and heard. Philosophical and spiritual wisdom – as revealed to the rushis after strict tap and deep dhyãn. The four Veds are Shruti shãstras. Tap to open in glossary → And having entered as the soul of that jiva. 'Anupravishya'—that is the meaning of that shloka. 'Anena jivena atmana anupravishya'. 'Anena jivena' means God entered the creation through the medium of the jiva. So who is the direct doer? God. Why? He only made the jiva a medium. Even so, did it not come in between? You use this wall as a medium. And then if someone stands on the other side, does it come in between or not? So how is it direct? Its accomplishment is only through God. Therefore, it is direct. If He is not there, then 'tat-sattve tat-sattvam, tad-abhave tad-abhavam'—that is direct. If God is not there, the jiva could not do it. As it is said here, the Virat entered but did not stand up. And Vasudev entered, so the whole universe moved. What does that mean? 'Tat-sattve tat-sattvam, tad-abhave tad-abhavam'—so whose direct influence is it? Of Vasudev. So God is the direct doer. Whether He is in any medium or not. Whether He is or not. God is the doer and undoer. Maya acts, Purusha acts, and Kaal acts. Those three together work in this creation. Then why believe God to be the doer and undoer? Why believe so? Without His presence, none of them can act. And with His presence, they can act. So who became the doer? God. Those mediums are there, yet they are not. Those mediums are just kept that way by God. He has kept a curtain. 'Nimitta-matram bhava savyasachin'—you just become an instrument. God alone is the direct doer. There is no other doer. Maharaj said that God, as mentioned here, the all-pervading form mentioned here, dwells in that way, He dwells with form. He dwells with form. So if one worships Him in the way He dwells, as the all-pervading form mentioned here, and Maharaj dwells in that murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → There is also a slight difference in belief between worship in other philosophies and worship in Maharaj's philosophy. If you compare. Even those who believe in the formless say they perform worship. And they worship the formless. So what is worship of the formless? So Maharaj said that the use of Maharaj's word 'upasana'—in the Upanishads, whatever one wants to take, everything is included. That worship can be called this, and it can also be called that, it is in both. That is why Maharaj said, first a guru guru A teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn. Tap to open in glossary → Those of Shankaracharya's school believe in the formless, so do they say they are not worshipers? Do they say they do not worship our God? They do perform worship. They all explain it as their own worship. So behind saying 'upasana', Maharaj also has this meaning. So what you said does not fit. They worship the formless, or they worship believing in the formless. They worship believing this very God to be all-pervading. Which form do they worship? In this, is it formless or with form? The manifest glory is of that very immanent... What is the essence of worship? That is, that is called its form. That is called its form. Worship of whom? What is worship? Whom to call it? The essence is to attain happiness like His. The happiness that is His. What is the fruit of performing worship? It is attainment, right? Why does a person perform worship? In winter, they warm themselves by the fire, so they worshiped the fire—why? Just like that, to take a photo? Like, 'Brother, I am warming myself, you take a photo.' Why do they warm themselves? They want to get its warmth and heat, they want to get it. So why do they perform worship of God? They should get some of God's heat, right? In that other one, they do not get it. In what you are saying, the real happiness of the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → And if they get it, they get very little. They warm themselves, but the stove is far away, like Birbal's khichdi. Like the stove is kept in that corner, and he is sitting in this corner saying, 'I am warming myself.' Like, 'Its ray is coming there, right?' So they do not get it that way. They do not get the kind of happiness they should. So Maharaj says, true happiness is only in Maharaj's murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → Maharaj said that those who perform this worship, who believe God to be formless, they worship only the form of God's maya. In that, what happens is, they are not clear about it. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. 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