Then Shriji Maharaj said, "He who has realized the form of God exactly as we described yesterday, and in whom no doubt remains. Just as once this neem tree is known, no doubt arises in the mind as to whether it is a neem tree or not. In the same way, no matter whose company he keeps or what kind of scriptures he hears, his mind never wavers from the conviction he has developed in the form of God. Such unwavering conviction in God, In one place, Maharaj said that lust may affect, anger may affect. It is the Vachanamrut of Vartal. That is about conviction. Vartal. Maharaj says that even if lust affects, anger affects, there too, the example of the neem tree is given. The neem and the mango. The example of the mango is given, that even if lust affects, anger affects, still, it makes no difference. That this is a neem tree. So, for a person, Maharaj gave such an example, so its intention of saying was that no matter how many expectations arise in a person, like 'God is not fulfilling my expectation this way, or that way,' then conviction is lost. Even then, it is not lost. If even then it is not lost, and he can believe it as it is, can believe a mango to be a mango, then Maharaj says his conviction is firm. It is not written like this in this. Storms arise from within that can turn a person's mind upside down, and yet his refuge does not waver. If he believes in Maharaj, in God, and Maharaj says if he understands his own fault, then his refuge does not waver. Otherwise, he blames Him, saying, 'He is like this, He is like that.' Then how can refuge remain? Thus, when his expectations are not being met, if he understands his own fault, then Maharaj says his conviction is firm, a firm conviction. And Maharaj said about that, that one experiences disturbances of lust, anger, etc., while another does not. So, after death, who attains greater happiness? So Maharaj says, he who experiences disturbances of lust, anger, etc., but does not understand the importance of anything other than the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → The other one does not have disturbances of lust, anger, etc., but it does not mean that he has an attraction towards Maharaj. Therefore, he is called a kevalyarthi. So, sometimes, if ego arises from within, he might observe the vows better than everyone else. But he will not experience such happiness in the abode of God. If this one experiences burning within, then Maharaj says so. And if he experiences burning in his mind, some burning in his heart due to the disturbances of lust, anger, etc., and understands his own flaw, then by going to the abode of God, he attains greater happiness. Even if the other one does not get disturbances, this one is happier than him. There can be two reasons for not getting them. Even if self-realization has come, they do not come. And even if complete conviction in God has come, they do not come. Two reasons. In that, if the other one is based on self-realization, then he who experiences disturbances of lust, anger, etc., and has an attraction, mahima, for the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → But he who has an attraction for the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → These disturbances are removed completely, once Maharaj's conviction is fully established, firm conviction is complete, still, these flaws associated with prakriti, when prarabdha occurs, in that, they go away slowly. They cannot be taken away completely based on prarabdha, but they go away slowly. They do not vanish instantly. It does not happen that conviction is attained today and they vanish today. Just as even if a rope is burnt, its form is still visible, and Maharaj has called this badhitanuvrutti. So sometimes, based on prakriti, its effect remains. But that effect is not such that it would make him fall from his vows. But Maharaj said that "In the same way, no matter whose company he keeps or what kind of scriptures he hears, his mind never wavers from the conviction he has developed in the form of God. Such unwavering conviction in God is what we call tadatmapanu. And such tadatmapanu is attained through the association of an ekantik bhakta bhakta Devotee of Bhagvãn. A follower of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → What question has been asked by Swami? "Does the sant sant A sãdhu. A tyãgi. In the Vachanãmrut, sant refers to sat- purush. Tap to open in glossary → Nirvikalp Nirvikalp Without alternatives or doubts. Used to describe faith or Tap to open in glossary → What do you call tadatmapanu? Maharaj says, we call this. To know Him unwaveringly, and having known Him, to make His refuge firm. That is what we call tadatmapanu. In that, if there is no wavering in his refuge, then we call it tadatmapanu. And that is not attained through nirvikalp nirvikalp Without alternatives or doubts. Used to describe faith or Tap to open in glossary → nirvikalp nirvikalp Without alternatives or doubts. Used to describe faith or Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → If no doubt remains in satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → nirvikalp nirvikalp Without alternatives or doubts. Used to describe faith or Tap to open in glossary → Even if there is nirvikalp nirvikalp Without alternatives or doubts. Used to describe faith or Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → If there is such satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → nirvikalp nirvikalp Without alternatives or doubts. Used to describe faith or Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → Maharaj defined tadatmapanu as unwavering conviction. So what is the literal meaning of tadatmapanu? What is its direct literal meaning? Tadatmapanu means a relationship of oneness. There are many types of relationships, right? Inseparable relation, relation of contact, all these are relationships. Among them, if there is the closest relationship, then it is called tadatmapanu. If we interpret it that way, it means that the happiness that God experiences, if he experiences it as his own, then it is called tadatmapanu. The kind of happiness that God experiences of His own form, this one experiences the same. Tasya Atma. That means Tasya Swarupam. Tadatmapanu, meaning Atma, meaning Tasya Atma, meaning God is indeed the inner-controlling Atma. But tadatmapanu, meaning Tasya Atma, here the word swarup is used. The kind of happiness that God experiences of His own form, this one experiences the same. Then it is said to be the closest relationship. The pinnacle of relationship is tadatmapanu. Oil and the stream of oil. Atma and the consciousness of Atma. It is shown just to show them as distinct. Oil and the stream of oil, so is the stream distinct from the oil? Such a relationship is called tadatmapanu. There is tadatmapanu between oil and the stream of oil. It is not distinct, it is just indicated as such. It is not distinct. But to understand the language of scriptures, to understand a worldly transaction, it is spoken like this. Atma and the consciousness of Atma. So what is the difference between Atma and the consciousness of Atma? Oil and the stream of oil, so what is the light in it? Are those two distinct entities? So they are not separate. But to show them as separate and to show the relationship between them is called tadatmapanu. Jivatma and Paramatma are separate. Jivatma and Paramatma are separate, but still, despite being separate, the kind of happiness that God experiences of His own form, this sant sant A sãdhu. A tyãgi. In the Vachanãmrut, sant refers to sat- purush. Tap to open in glossary → sant sant A sãdhu. A tyãgi. In the Vachanãmrut, sant refers to sat- purush. Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details