And if they say that heaven and hell do not exist, then? You believe in the scriptures, but the non-believers do not. In this world, there is a lot of misery. What? In this world too, there is a lot of happiness and misery. So, in this world, not everyone is equal, that is the reason. If there are four brothers in this world, are all four brothers equally happy? Why wouldn't they be? The father would have distributed the property equally to everyone. Then why wouldn't they be equally happy? What? They say that they have brought their past karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → It is not that everyone becomes equally happy because of the father. They have brought their own karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → So, what one does, it is proven by this that one has to experience the fruit of what one does. Whoever does any kind of secret action, they must experience its fruit. Such a belief, such a rule of God does exist. But we do not believe it. If we do not believe in the law of India, does the law go away? There is a law of India that do not do this. And we say that brother, we do not know anything and we do not even believe in the law of India, then? If we say that we do not believe in the law of India, then they will beat us with two more sticks. What else would they do? Just because we do not believe, does the law go away? Similarly, God's law is such that whoever does, pays. There is a saying in the world, isn't it, that whoever does, pays, that is the law of karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → People say so. Whoever does, pays, that is the law of karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → Naradji sent that Valia robber, didn't he? Go and ask your family members. That I am committing this sin, will you be a partner in it? So what did they say? Whoever does, pays. That is the law of karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → Whoever does, pays. It is not that whoever eats, pays. They would say, "Brother, whether you feed us by earning honestly or by committing sins, we are only entitled to eat, we are not responsible for paying." So, such a law is indeed God's. But do we believe it or not? Like that. If one believes, it is called astikta. He is called a believer. And if one does not believe, it is called nastikta. Nastikta, Maharaj says, is a great sin. And it is the cause of great misery. If you walk recklessly on this road. And do not pay any attention to the law. Then who suffers? The government? The government does not suffer. It is the one who violates the law who suffers. Whether one is a non-believer or a believer, the one who violates the law suffers. By becoming a non-believer or a believer, it does not go away for anyone. Believer, what does it mean? Keeping it in mind, one does not violate the law. If one is a believer in God's law, one does not violate God's law, that's it. And if one is a non-believer, then here, acting very smart, one violates it. If one violates it by acting smart, it is not that one can escape because of that. So, the one who violates God's law will definitely suffer. To maintain such a belief is the way to escape from misery. If one does not believe, one does not escape from misery. Now, God is in no hurry. If this person wants to escape, he should do this, if not, then so be it. God is not like vegetables that will dry up in the evening. What is the worry of a vegetable vendor? He has to sell it before evening falls. A gold and jewelry merchant does not have to sell it before evening, thinking it will dry up. If not today, then tomorrow; if not tomorrow, then the day after. It is not going to dry up. So God also says, "This is a jiva, no problem, if not today, then tomorrow, whenever you come." God does not have any such thing. Belief is needed. A person needs his own belief that whatever work I do, its fruit Who is the one to experience or pay for it? Someday, we ourselves have to pay it along with interest. Instead of that, if we reduce the loan a bit now, we will have to pay less interest. Let's reduce the loan now. At that time, one does it recklessly, and then when it is time to pay, one cannot pay. So, here in the world, one escapes, goes into bankruptcy, and acts bankrupt, so the bank then forgives him. But there, there is no such forgiveness even if one goes into bankruptcy. Experience it in two, three, five, or five births. Experience it in ten births, in a hundred births. But he is the one who has to experience it. So, belief is the way to escape. It is the way to escape from birth and death, and also from the miseries of this world. Does God show partiality, that He removes the miseries of those who surrender to Him? What if His devotee has sometimes done the exact same work? Even then, He does punish. Just because one has become a devotee, it does not mean everything is forgiven. Those are just so-called devotees. If he is a true devotee, God forgives. He does not forgive a so-called devotee. If he feels in his mind that "I have made a mistake" and asks God for forgiveness, and is a true believer—hypocrisy or drama does not work with God. If he is true, He forgives. God forgives and only then takes him to God's abode, doesn't He? Even if the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → But that happens only if he turns back, right? If he is called a devotee just to get forgiveness, then God does not do it. God is not one to be deceived. If any jiva tries to deceive Him, He is not deceived, and if one tries to frighten Him, He is not frightened. Kansa and others went to frighten God, but He is not afraid of anyone. If anyone tries to deceive Him, He is not deceived. If he is true, He forgives. If he is true, He forgives, no doubt about it. Expounded topic: Is the distinction of rules and prohibitions true or false? And the nature of the mind. Main points: The distinction of rules and prohibitions is true. One must experience the fruit of good and bad actions performed. Do not lose heart seeing the thoughts of the mind, consider oneself distinct from them. In this Vachanamrut, Shriji Maharaj first asked the junior Paramhansas, "Some jivas in this world, like the non-believers, say that the water of Ganga and other water both appear the same." Get the Shaligram and other stones tested in a laboratory. Ganga water turns out to be very good even in laboratory tests. But what if it doesn't? Get distilled water, all this filtered water, and Ganga water, get both tested in a laboratory. Then what does that turn out to be? What do they call it? What? TDS. TDS. Or what? Which one has higher TDS? Shaligram and other stones appear the same. Similarly, Tulsi Tulsi 1) Basil. Variety of plant in the mint family, native to warm regions. Its aromatic leaves have inherent healing qualities and also is often used as seasoning. Used as a fragrant offering to Bhagvãn. The wood of the plant is also used in the making beads for mãlãs and kanthis. 2) Bhagvãn made a pati-vratã named Vrundã break her pati-vratã vow. So, she cursed Bhagvãn and turned Him into shãligrãm (stone), and He in turn cursed Tap to open in glossary → A Brahmin and a Shudra Shudra Labourer. Skilled worker traditionally serving the other three varnas (brãhmans, kshatriyas, and vaishyas). The lowest of the four varnas (castes) of the ancient Indian social system. Tap to open in glossary → Food offered to Thakorji and other food appear the same. Fasting on the day of Ekadashi and fasting on any other day, both appear the same. And a sadhu and a non-sadhu, both appear the same. Therefore, why did those who are called great personages expound this division of rules and prohibitions in the scriptures? Thus say the jivas with evil intellect. Therefore, we ask all of you sadhus this question, "Is that division of rules and prohibitions expounded by great personages in the scriptures true or imaginary?" Let the junior Paramhansas answer this. The essence of the question is whether our observance of rules and prohibitions is fruitful or fruitless. By performing good conduct, does one ever get its good fruit now or after death? By performing bad conduct, does one have to suffer its punishment Suppose we are performing good conduct. And people in the world do not call us good, then? Then what do we do? Do we retain the faith to perform good conduct? What? Do we retain it or not? So what does that mean? Are we believers or non-believers? Suppose we are performing good conduct. And no one in the world calls us good. Mostly, in that, it is said that a sadhu and a non-sadhu. They both appear the same. Who says so? Someone might say that this person is a sadhu. 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