Have the urgency to be free from prakruti | P. Mahant Swami | Satsang Chintan

Therefore, by what means can one overcome their inherent nature?

Then all the sages pondered, but they could not find an answer to Shriji Maharaj's question.

Then Shriji Maharaj said, "The answer to that is,

To give up that nature, the Satpurush

What is its meaning? The saints couldn't find it. What does that mean?

The saints couldn't find any answer, what does that mean? What are you doing?

So, what Maharaj has kept in mind, that is not found.

It's not like that.

Maharaj doesn't keep everything in mind.

Maharaj said in Vachanamrut 35 that if he had kept it in mind, then the answer would not have come.

So, if he kept it in mind, what does that mean to Maharaj?

He likes it very much.

Maharaj likes it very much.

It's not like Maharaj keeps everything in mind.

If Maharaj likes it,

that Maharaj makes false assumptions, or you tell me what's in my big one.

So, what you have filled your mouth with, how would we know?

Maharaj wouldn't do such a thing.

But

Maharaj likes it.

But here, no saint could answer, so what does that mean?

That a seeker goes to find it on their own.

There might be some seeker.

There are sadhus among the Paramhansas.

And they perform spiritual practices.

They go to find the way to overcome nature on their own.

Then it comes into hand.

All these saints were seekers, and they were liberated. What about seekers?

Even then, Maharaj found such a rare thing, but we don't value it.

We don't value it, that Maharaj found such a ready-made product.

Now, we use it, but we don't value it.

Maharaj told those saints, but it didn't register in their minds, otherwise everyone

They were practitioners, seekers, liberated souls, and all had studied the scriptures.

Still, no one could grasp it.

So Maharaj prepared and found it.

It has been found, but now who will use it?

Who will use it?

One who wants to overcome their nature will use it, won't they?

No one wants to avoid it.

They want to increase it.

They don't want to avoid it.

If they get a chance to increase their nature, they want to increase it.

No one has the desire to avoid it.

Huh?

What's the fun in increasing it?

So, what's the big deal?

There must be some fun, otherwise no one would do any work without fun.

It's fun to increase one's own nature.

No one enjoys avoiding it.

Mumukshus enjoy avoiding it.

A mumukshumumukshuA person in search of moksh.Tap to open in glossary → walks completely against it.

A mumukshumumukshuA person in search of moksh.Tap to open in glossary → is one who walks completely against what the world enjoys.

Otherwise, not a mumukshumumukshuA person in search of moksh.Tap to open in glossary →.

One becomes a sadhu, but then the mumukshumumukshuA person in search of moksh.Tap to open in glossary → leaves.

The state of mumukshumumukshuA person in search of moksh.Tap to open in glossary → does not remain.

Sadhu

ta

Sadhu

ta

Didn't the sadhu become one in a day? When?

In one hour.

How long does it take to wear saffron robes?

In one hour.

That 'ta' doesn't even come in a whole lifetime, you see.

Even if one studies for a whole lifetime, that 'ta' doesn't come, no matter what.

They remain loose and loose.

The 'ta' should come, shouldn't it?

So, the 'ta' doesn't come.

So, it was said 'sadhuta'.

Then all the sages pondered, but they could not find an answer to Shriji Maharaj's question.

Then Shriji Maharaj said,

If Maharaj has to answer, he has to answer correctly, right?

One needs the support of scriptures somewhere.

The basis of experience.

Huh?

One needs the basis of experience.

Otherwise, it won't work, Maharaj will doubt again.

Maharaj says it's not just that you are wrong.

But Maharaj breaks it with proper logic.

If it's like this, then it happens like that.

So he breaks it, and then no one can do anything.

Then Shriji Maharaj said, "The answer to that is,

To give up that nature, one must have immense faith in the words of the Satpurush who preaches.

And the listener must have immense love for the one who preaches.

And the one who preaches, no matter

He talks very nicely in front of everyone.

GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → Maharaj.

That we

We believe in God.

But what do they not believe?

They don't believe in God's words.

They don't believe in God's words.

We believe in God.

But we don't believe in God's words.

That is called prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

That is called prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

That we believe in God, but we don't believe in God's words, we don't believe what God has said.

Everyone thinks that, but then who doesn't chant Swaminarayan, Swaminarayan?

But who does what Swaminarayan said?

Tell me, who doesn't chant Swaminarayan, Swaminarayan?

And who does what Swaminarayan said?

So we believe in God, but we don't believe in God's words.

We believe in the GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →, that this is my GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →.

But we don't believe in the GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →'s words.

So that is called, if we believe, whose words do we believe?

If we believe, whose words do we believe?

Of a friend.

Of a friend, we believe in a friend's words, but we believe in prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

A friend's words can be believed.

They are called bosom friends.

Even a bad prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → has to be changed.

Maharaj said that.

Recognize your own prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → and change it, even if it's bad.

Maharaj says some people have a calm prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → and some have a restless prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

So the restless one should become calm, and the calm one should become restless.

The calm one should not assume that there is no one like them.

Don't believe that.

The calm one should become restless, and the restless one should become calm.

One's prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → is the dowry of maya.

So it has to be changed, it has to be done as God likes.

If it changes in this birth, that's fine too.

That's fine too.

So he became separate from prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

To change one's prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → means to become separate from prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

I am not prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

To give up that nature, one should have immense faith in the words of the Satpurush who gives the discourse.

And the listener should have immense love for the one who gives the discourse.

And the one who gives the discourse, no matter how much

If there is no love, then prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → will never change.

And if prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → doesn't change, it means that there is no love.

Maharaj said in the Vachanamrut that Dada Khachar has affection for us, so we do not keep any prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → that we do not desire.

It means that if there is affection, then prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → changes.

And if there is another need, then prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → changes.

Need is temporary.

A laborer has a need for the master, but for how many days? Until he gets paid.

Then there is no need.

So if one keeps a need, then prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → changes.

And if there is affection, then prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → changes.

If one develops affection for God, then their prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary → does not remain, it becomes whatever they desire.

The gopis had affection for God, so they had such a desire that where would Kanhaiya go, escaping from our hands?

But there was affection, so when God desired, everything was released.

Completely opposite to one's prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →.

Not even for a moment can one remain, a moment feels like an age without seeing you.

Not even for a moment could they remain, they remained for how many hundred years.

They could not live without God for 100 years.

When God took the gopis to Kurukshetra, how old was God?

105 years.

The Mahabharata war happened at 105 years.

God must have been 105, 16, 17, 18 years old, right?

So when did God abandon the gopis?

Huh?

When did he abandon them?

Huh?

When did Amitabh Bachchan do Kaun Banega Crorepati?

That much is known.

This is not known.

When did he do it?

In childhood.

In childhood, you threw a stone at the sky.

When they count the years, it's only the childhood stage.

At what age did he renounce, like that.

At what age did he renounce?

Here.

So it's all like this.

Do you know about Amitabh Bachchan or not?

He stayed for 11 years and 52 days, and after that, God went to Mathura.

So he stayed for 11 years and 52 days.

So, 100 years must have passed by then when God met him, so 100 years passed.

The Gopis say, "A moment without seeing you feels like an eon."

Kotil Kuntalam, and you.

When you go from here to graze the cows, and we don't see you, then our one moment becomes like an eon.

Those 100 years passed.

100 years passed without God.

So, the affection didn't break again, you know.

The affection remained the same, and still 100 years.

For some, the affection even increased.

And 100 years.

He renounced nature.

If there is affection, then one renounces nature.

He thought that I am going to do this.

The Gopis thought that we would do this.

But there was affection, so it meant you don't have to do that, so it was over.

So, nature departs due to affection.

Here, Maharaj said that nature departs due to affection.

That there is extreme affection in it.

Read it again, what is it?

Its answer is that the Satpurush who preaches to abandon one's nature, one has immense faith in his words.

And the listener has immense love for the one who does not preach.

There is both affection and faith.

That this will only do good for us.

And if there is affection, then nature departs.

And the one who preaches, no matter how much he hurts and speaks harsh words.

Maharaj said that by hurting, when nature is stirred, pain is bound to occur.

If nature gently departs, then nothing is sown.

It's not like that.

It's not possible for nature to depart without being beaten.

Nature, if no one shows it, then these sadhus became sadhus and Maharaj said to renounce nature at home.

Otherwise, both life and nature go together.

They go wherever they go.

Wherever it goes, it goes.

If he fought a lot with everyone in this birth and then becomes an ox, then what?

He becomes aggressive.

If he becomes a dog, then what?

He becomes a biter.

If he becomes a donkey, he kicks.

Nature still doesn't go away like that.

Even if it goes anywhere.

Nature goes along with it.

If he renounces here, then he can renounce it in the human body.

Otherwise, he can't do anything else.

And God showed that path, so if one does that, it happens, otherwise it doesn't.

And the one who preaches, no matter how much he hurts and speaks harsh words, still considers it beneficial.

Then the natural disposition also gets destroyed.

But there is no other way without that.

Therefore, whoever has the desire to overcome their nature.

For him, God, this is a very big, important matter.

What did Maharaj say?

What did he say?

I don't know what he said.

What did he say?

Maharaj has devotion to be released.

If there is a desire to avoid it.

He who has the desire to avoid it.

That's what needs to be seen, whether it is there or not.

How intense is it for him?

If one has the desire to overcome nature and acts according to what Maharaj said, then it will be overcome.

Otherwise, it won't be overcome.

Therefore, whoever has the desire to overcome their nature.

There is a lot of affection.

Even then.

If there is no desire.

If there is no desire, it won't be overcome.

There is a lot of affection.

Without a moment, if they become free, they would circumambulate him.

Don't we circumambulate Maharaj? When we are free, don't we start circumambulating?

Right?

But there is no desire to avoid it.

Circumambulated 100 times.

I circumambulate many times.

Because I'm free.

He will now do japa or circumambulation.

That desire is not there.

There is no desire to overcome one's nature.

Therefore, one who wants to overcome their nature,

If you tell me to overcome my nature, Maharaj says, "I will not circumambulate now."

We will do something else.

Sit down to do japa.

There is no problem in doing japa.

If you are circumambulating, then japa can be done loudly from a distance.

So Maharaj says, "I will do japa."

I will not circumambulate now.

If you tell me to overcome my nature, then I will not circumambulate.

Otherwise, he would circumambulate somewhere.

So there is a lot of deep affection.

But if one does not have the desire to overcome their nature, then it will not be overcome.

Maharaj told Durvasa, "Durvasa and others have become liberated, yet they remained angry. What is the reason for that?"

Huh?

Who?

Who?

Nature.

Huh?

He considers it secondary.

Okay.

Otherwise, all these things would keep bothering us.

All these things bother us.

So, considering it secondary, he has kept it.

So he has no desire to renounce it.

He has a desire to keep it.

That's why it remains with him.

So if there is no desire to keep it, it will not remain.

To God.

This is God's mercy.

Others may wish to avoid it, but they cannot.

But if one takes refuge in God and does as God says, and has affection for it, then if they want to avoid it, they can.

Otherwise, it will not be avoided.

Therefore, one who desires to overcome their nature, for them, God and the Satpurush will remove that nature, no matter how much they scorn them, and no matter what kind of scorn they receive.

Even if they are scorned,

No matter how much they are scorned or how harsh words are spoken to them, they should not be hurt in any way.

And one should only take the good from the speaker.

If one behaves in such a way, even if there is a nature that cannot be overcome in any way, it will still be overcome.

Thus, the 37th Vachanamrut of Gadhada Madhya Prakaran was completed in this way.

Subject matter.

The way to overcome nature.

Main point.

To overcome nature, one needs faith, love, earnestness, and patience in the Satpurush.

Such patience is needed.

This is a very painful subject.

This is a very sensitive subject.

So it is not likable.

Even seekers do not like it.

Even seekers do not like it; they have such a desire that I go to Maharaj.

And I please Maharaj.

But when it comes to giving up one's nature, he does not like it.

He also does not like it.

And it causes a lot of pain.

It is very painful to be free from it.

This has become attached to the jiva.

So it causes him a lot of pain.

When donkeys go to graze in the monsoon, their hair gets entangled with burrs.

So it causes them pain even when they are entangled, and it causes them pain when they are removed.

If you remove them, they will make a lot of noise, two or two maunds.

And even if they are entangled, they will make a lot of noise, two or two maunds.

So it is the same with nature.

A person is troubled by their own nature.

His own nature troubles him.

Not anyone else.

And there is pain, but if you remove it, there is pain, and if you keep it, there is pain.

It is like that.

So it is very painful.

This whole subject is painful.

So even if you try to remove it, it causes a lot of pain.

It becomes difficult.

And if you keep it, it causes pain; if you keep it, a person gets troubled by their own self.

He suffers from his own nature; until he changes it, the suffering will not end.

This is the Vachanamrut about overcoming nature.

Maharaj said the Gita verse: "Even a wise manmanMind. One of the four antah-karans, with the function of (pronounced mun) generating thoughts and desires, and governing all of the indriyas.Tap to open in glossary → acts according to his own nature. All beings follow their nature."

Even if knowledge comes, nature does not change.

What comes so that nature changes?

Who?

If there is a need, then nature will be removed.

If there is love, then nature will be removed.

If there is knowledge, then nature will not be removed.

If there is knowledge but no love, and the knowledge has increased, then nature will increase instead.

It's difficult.

So, before knowledge, there should be love.

He should have love for God and for God's devotee.

And he should have a need for it.

A need only arises if a person makes an effort, otherwise it doesn't.

So, if only knowledge has increased a lot, then nature will not be removed.

Even a wise manmanMind. One of the four antah-karans, with the function of (pronounced mun) generating thoughts and desires, and governing all of the indriyas.Tap to open in glossary → acts according to his own nature. All beings follow their nature. What can restraint do?

Referring to this, it is said that even a wise person acts according to his own nature.

The restraint mentioned in the scriptures has no power.

Nature is connected with the life force. Nature is connected with the life force.

Even if life leaves, nature does not leave, the inherent nature does not leave.

Even though one knows the scriptural prohibitions, and even though one is self-realized, one puts them aside, turns a deaf ear,

and when it comes to the desired enjoyment or benefit, the scriptural prohibition cannot stand, and one quickly seizes it.

In the face of strong nature, scriptural teachings or the advice of elders become insignificant.

Therefore, it is very difficult to overcome nature.

By what means can that inherent nature be overcome?

The saints could not give a proper answer, so Shriji Maharaj himself gave the answer.

One who has the desire to abandon their inherent strong nature,

for the sake of abandoning that nature, if there is immense faith in the words of the Satpurush who gives spiritual guidance, and if the listener has immense affection for the one who gives the guidance,

and if both of them come together, then this happens.

If there is a very great person, and he does not have the desire to help the seeker abandon their nature, and only wishes to do other things, then nature will not be removed.

And if he wishes that this nature be abandoned, then he must make some efforts for it.

And then, if this one has the desire, but the other one doesn't, saying, "I don't want to abandon my nature."

Then it won't be removed.

If both have the desire, and then it is as said, then nature will be removed.

So, didn't Gunatitanand Swami say that we used to live in Brahmanand Swami's group, and from there, we left and came to Atmanand Swami's group?

Why did they come?

Atmanand Swami used to scold a lot.

Atmanand Swami used to scold a lot; if he saw nature or saw something against Maharaj, he would scold a lot.

So, he would say, "It's good for us."

If he scolds, then some change happens.

And Brahmanand Swami was so great that he had Maharaj's work and this and that, so he could pay less attention to such things.

So, even if the Satpurush is great, if he doesn't know our nature and doesn't tell us, then it won't be removed.

Sometimes, even great people are afraid of our nature, thinking, "If they get angry, what will happen? Where will I go? I'll have to keep the doors open."

So, even if they are afraid, nature will not be removed.

And if this one wishes that this nature be removed, then it's good.

But if he doesn't have that wish,

then it won't be removed.

If both have the desire for their nature to be removed, but there is no love, then it won't be removed.

And if there is love and everything, but no patience, then it won't be removed.

This is not a matter of two days.

It's a matter of great sorrow.

So, both of them become sad.

That this one doesn't listen to me.

So, the other one thinks, "This isn't leaving me."

So, both of them become sad.

So, they remain sad for a long time.

And if there are so many desires, then nature will not be removed, otherwise it will not be removed.

One who has the desire to abandon their inherent strong nature,

for the sake of abandoning that nature, if there is immense faith in the words of the Satpurush who gives spiritual guidance,

and if the listener has immense affection for the one who gives the guidance,

and the one who gives the guidance, no matter who it is,

Even if he says harsh words to hurt me, he should have such a need that he makes me give up my nature.

If someone makes me give up my nature, then I will be sold to him.

If someone saves me from Kaal, then I will surrender my head to him.

He should have such a need that he makes me give up my nature from Kaal. If I am freed from nature, then I am freed from Kaal.

If I am freed from nature, then I am freed from Kaal.

And the listener has excessive love for the one who preaches, and the one who preaches, no matter how much he hurts,

As long as this jiva is in the clutches of prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →, only then does Kaal rule over it.

He got freed from prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →. These 24 elements belong to prakrutiprakruti1) Divine energy or instrument of Bhagvãn that initiates the creation process by being ‘impregnated’ by Purush – also called Mul-Purush, Mahã-Purush, or Akshar- Purush – and from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are ‘conceived’ for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. Taken to be feminine in nature, she is composed of the three gun, is both jad and chaitanya, eternal, nirvishesh, and in her dormant state houses all jeevs and all elements. Also called Mul- Prakruti, Mul-Mãyã, and Mahã-Mãyã. 2) Also refers to Pradhãn-Prakruti.Tap to open in glossary →. He got freed from them, so Kaal does not bother him.

He goes to God's abode.