If one is a servant and wishes to know the master's glory, what wrong has he done? If he wishes to see and know more of his master's glory, what wrong has he done? Maharaj has crossed with such a question, hasn't He? What question has Maharaj crossed? Let's see. Then the Muni Muni Sãdhu. Tap to open in glossary → said, "After finding God, if one believes in his mind that, 'When we see Akshardham or the light of millions of suns, only then are we liberated,' such a person does not have a true conviction of God." Dham, light, power, strength, and divine powers are all God's glory. So, if we are servants of God and wish to see God's glory, what wrong have we done? Should one believe Maharaj is the supreme Purush Purush 1) An akshar-mukta selected by Akshar-Brahm to ‘impregnate’ Prakruti for the creation process, from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are formed for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 2) Purush half of the Pradhãn-Purush pair, ‘conceived’ by Mul-Purush and Mul-Prakruti for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 3) Taken to be masculine in nature, Purush is the controller of Prakruti, and is also distinct from her. He is indivisible, without a beginning, and without an end. He is self-luminous, omniscient, imperishable, satya, kshetragna, and the cause of all the activities that possess a form. He also has a divya body. 4) Also called Mahã-Purush, Mul-Purush or Akshar- Purush. Tap to open in glossary → only when His glory is seen? But this Purush Purush 1) An akshar-mukta selected by Akshar-Brahm to ‘impregnate’ Prakruti for the creation process, from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are formed for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 2) Purush half of the Pradhãn-Purush pair, ‘conceived’ by Mul-Purush and Mul-Prakruti for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 3) Taken to be masculine in nature, Purush is the controller of Prakruti, and is also distinct from her. He is indivisible, without a beginning, and without an end. He is self-luminous, omniscient, imperishable, satya, kshetragna, and the cause of all the activities that possess a form. He also has a divya body. 4) Also called Mahã-Purush, Mul-Purush or Akshar- Purush. Tap to open in glossary → is right in front of us. The one we have met is the Purush Purush 1) An akshar-mukta selected by Akshar-Brahm to ‘impregnate’ Prakruti for the creation process, from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are formed for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 2) Purush half of the Pradhãn-Purush pair, ‘conceived’ by Mul-Purush and Mul-Prakruti for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 3) Taken to be masculine in nature, Purush is the controller of Prakruti, and is also distinct from her. He is indivisible, without a beginning, and without an end. He is self-luminous, omniscient, imperishable, satya, kshetragna, and the cause of all the activities that possess a form. He also has a divya body. 4) Also called Mahã-Purush, Mul-Purush or Akshar- Purush. Tap to open in glossary → . Yet, if one says that he wants to see the Purush Purush 1) An akshar-mukta selected by Akshar-Brahm to ‘impregnate’ Prakruti for the creation process, from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are formed for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 2) Purush half of the Pradhãn-Purush pair, ‘conceived’ by Mul-Purush and Mul-Prakruti for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 3) Taken to be masculine in nature, Purush is the controller of Prakruti, and is also distinct from her. He is indivisible, without a beginning, and without an end. He is self-luminous, omniscient, imperishable, satya, kshetragna, and the cause of all the activities that possess a form. He also has a divya body. 4) Also called Mahã-Purush, Mul-Purush or Akshar- Purush. Tap to open in glossary → ... No, there is no doubt that He is the Purush Purush 1) An akshar-mukta selected by Akshar-Brahm to ‘impregnate’ Prakruti for the creation process, from which countless pairs of Pradhãn and Purush are formed for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 2) Purush half of the Pradhãn-Purush pair, ‘conceived’ by Mul-Purush and Mul-Prakruti for the creation and sustenance of each brahmãnd. 3) Taken to be masculine in nature, Purush is the controller of Prakruti, and is also distinct from her. He is indivisible, without a beginning, and without an end. He is self-luminous, omniscient, imperishable, satya, kshetragna, and the cause of all the activities that possess a form. He also has a divya body. 4) Also called Mahã-Purush, Mul-Purush or Akshar- Purush. Tap to open in glossary → , but Maharaj asked, what sin has he committed in wanting to see the glory? He is attracted more to God's glory than to God Himself. Yes, like that. So, it is not that we are separating him, but it means, is God subordinate to the glory, or is the glory subordinate to God? Right? The glory is subordinate to God. Is God subordinate to the light, or is the light subordinate to God? So, which is the source? The source is God's form. God's murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → is the source. Dham, does God go wherever the Dham goes, or does the Dham go wherever God goes? Right? If the Dham is like that, it would pull God. If the Dham is like that, it would pull God. No. Subordinate to Dham means, does the Dham go where God's murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → goes, or does God have to go where the Dham goes? So, if God is subordinate to the Dham, then God is considered that much secondary. Am I only someone when I sit on a chair, and what if I step down from the chair? Is a collector great as a person, or is his chair great? What do you say? For a collector, the chair is great. That is only when he sits on it, meaning the chair represents the post, whatever it is. Otherwise, he is not great, but is it like that with God or how is it? Like the helicopter landing leader and? Positional and personal. Personal leader. So, is God a personal leader or a positional leader? Right? He is a personal leader. His personality is such that everyone from the Dham is drawn there. It is not that His personality and all that influence only arise when He sits in a position. So, is God's influence due to His position, or is His influence due to Himself? Is God's influence due to His personality, or is it due to His position? Right? Due to His personality. So, what is the light? What is the luminous murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → ? It is glory. Position. Position. Only if two, three, or five people are on this side and two or three are on that side, saying 'Khama Khama', and lights of glory are flashing, is that God's glory, meaning God's influence, or is it the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → 's influence? Maharaj wants to clarify this. Sometimes power is not visible. Hiranyaksha picked up the entire earth, rolled it up, took it away, and slept using it as a pillow. What if God does not show such power? Right? Then is it God's influence or the influence of divine powers? There is a difference between God's divine powers and others' divine powers, as 'Svabhaviki jnan bala kriya cha'. The divine powers of God are natural. There is a difference between His powers and the powers found in others, but still, divine powers can be different. When Garudji arrived, all the snakes left Ramchandraji and went away. So, is God's power greater or is Garudji's power greater? Right? Whose influence is greater? Garudji's. Right? Garudji's. Apparently, Garudji's influence seemed greater. Then, did the importance of God's murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → remain or not? If the valuation of God's murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → is based on power, then Garudji's would be greater. Based on power. If God's valuation is based on light, then the valuation is correct when He is in the Dham. But by whom is God valued? He is established in His own glory ('Sve mahimni pratisthitah'). He does not need any other value added. Does God's influence increase by any position, whether He is luminous, sitting on a throne in the Dham, wandering in the Himalayas, roaming in the desert of Kutch, or moving in the Dham, which position is it? So, which position is powerful? So, God's influence is self-existent. As for positional influence, this God actually gives influence to the position. It is not that the position adds anything to God. Maharaj wants to show all this. So, if God has come here from the Dham and there is no light, no divine powers, nothing, and He is just wandering around, even without a servant. Sometimes Maharaj would not even take a servant with Him, He would go alone. He would set out in Kutch. Maharaj used to do that when He sat sat 1) True. Real. 2) Permanent, imperishable and unchanging. Is unbound by the past, the present, and the future. Tap to open in glossary → on the throne. He would set out alone. Then, should His influence be considered or not? Does His influence increase or decrease? If light came and light went, does God's influence increase or decrease? Right? That is why Maharaj said that when one sees this very form of the manifest God as luminous, then he feels in his mind that, 'My complete liberation is attained.' What does that mean? By position. 'My liberation is by position, not by the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → .' 'Pujya puja vyatikramah'. 'Shreyohi pratibadhnati pujya puja vyatikramah'. Here, it is not 'pujya puja' but 'mahima' and 'manyata vyatikramah'. Belief is based on glory. One's belief should correspond to the glory, shouldn't it? So, is the glory of the light or of the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → ? Right? Is the glory of the Dham or of the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → ? Is the glory of the position or is it self-existent? It is of the person. It is of the person. So, because there is no such understanding, one should not listen to him. For him. Because liberation is not by light. Liberation is not by light, and even if one has visited the Dham once, still there is no liberation. Liberation is based on the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → . Wherever the murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → is, it comes. So, apart from Dham, light, power, strength, and divine powers, the influence of God's murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → is supreme. All of these exist based on Him. He does not exist based on them. This talk has come to bring such clarification in the mind. Then the Muni Muni Sãdhu. Tap to open in glossary → said, "After finding God, if one believes in his mind that, 'When we see Akshardham or the light of millions of suns, only then are we liberated,' such a person does not have a true conviction of God." Then Shreeji Maharaj said, "By harboring a desire to see Brahmapur and other abodes and the Brahmic form, what sin has he committed that you deny his conviction?" Then the Muni Muni Sãdhu. Tap to open in glossary → said, "One who has believed liberation to be through the darshan darshan Seeing. To see with admiration and devotion. To see Bhagvãn, a sat-purush, and murtis, with inner or outer vision, with the intention of receiving their grace and blessings. By doing darshan properly a bhakta develops affection for Bhagvãn, and Bhagvãn develops affection for that bhakta. [Sãrangpur – 2]. Tap to open in glossary → of the manifest God, Brahmapur, Golok Golok 1) The dhãm of Shree Krishna Bhagvãn. 2) Also means Akshardhãm. The prefix ‘go’ means light; therefore, meaning the ‘lok of light’ – Akshardhãm. Tap to open in glossary → , and other abodes also belong to God, so why should he have a dislike for them? But he would not desire them without God." AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. 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