Even when there is a cause for mental disturbance, remaining unaffected and having an undisturbed mind is forgiveness. Even in the presence of causes that provoke mental disturbances like anger, if it does not occur, then it is called forgiveness. Merely not getting angry is not considered forgiveness in itself. "I never get angry." "I don't get angry at anyone, I don't see anyone's flaws," so that is not to be called forgiveness. Why not that? Even if there is a reason, anger remains, but if it doesn't happen to anyone... A weak or powerless person also never gets angry. A weak person does not get angry. Draupadi said this to Yudhishthira. Of one whose anger is not futile... ...whose anger is ineffective, He is called weak. He cannot be called forgiving. What? What did you understand? Take it. What did you understand? What did you understand? You understood nothing. Sadgun Saheb, what did you understand? Understood something new. One whose anger has no effect is weak. So is he called forgiving or not? No, he is not. No, he is not. He is called weak. If anger occurs, someone should tremble, the one upon whom the anger is directed. So if they don't tremble, shake them a little to make them tremble. So, do not become weak, but become forgiving. Who is called forgiving? "Those whose minds are not disturbed even when there is cause for disturbance are truly wise," they alone are forgiving, they alone are free from anger. So if someone ruins something of ours and teases us, even then, not to get teased, then that is called forgiveness. If no one teases us, then we don't get teased anyway, what else? But many have a habit of teasing. Some have a habit of teasing. So, even if there is a cause, to him... ...not to get angry, that is called forgiveness. When we are asleep, where do we get angry? It only happens after waking up, right? If we are asleep and someone takes our blanket, the anger happens in the morning. Or does it happen while sleeping? How is it with Devpaksha Swami? Does anger happen while sleeping or in the morning? Or if it doesn't even happen in the morning, then no problem, like "It's fine, he must have covered himself elsewhere." That's it. Even when there is a cause for mental disturbance, remaining unaffected is forgiveness. How would devotion to God happen for him, what is the need for this in devotion to God? Now, the fruit of all this was mentioned, right? What is the fruit of forgiveness? "He becomes united through unwavering yoga." So how would devotion happen in that? That is because one cannot tolerate someone else, but where does our devotion to God get damaged? Even if we are turning the beads and singing kirtans, our tears flow, and our devotion continues. But if someone else comes to tease us, we take a stick, because where is the conflict between the two, is there any clash? Huh? But that is in the morning during puja, we have to take the stick at nine o'clock. If someone has pulled out a fence post from our yard, then what? So what was the problem in devotion? What do you say? It comes to mind during puja, right? It doesn't come to mind during puja, in puja we are... ...oh, deeply moved. So just keep it to not remembering during puja. Throughout the day. What? Huh? How is it? So if there is no forgiveness, one who cannot forgive cannot have continuous devotion. Continuous devotion does not remain. If one cannot forgive, what happens to him? All this is a state of mind. Intellectual state, knowledge state, delusion-free state, forgiving state. So if one cannot forgive, what happens to him? He contemplates on it. He contemplates on it. If he contemplates on it, how can devotion remain for him? So while doing devotion, he gets engaged in that other thing. Even when there is a cause for mental disturbance, remaining unaffected is forgiveness. Even in the presence of causes that provoke mental disturbances like anger, if it does not occur, then it is called forgiveness. Merely not getting angry is not considered forgiveness in itself. When there is a cause for mental disturbance... ...even then... ...remaining unaffected. Remaining unaffected, so it is not just about anger. What? Anger is also included in it. But mental disturbance, this definition is such... ...that if one feels jealousy towards someone, feels malice towards someone, feels envy towards someone, all those are causes. And even then, if one does not let it happen, then it is called forgiveness. Cause of mental disturbance, is anger the only mental disturbance? Even before anger, many other things might have come. One, so feeling malice towards someone, feeling jealousy towards someone, feeling this, all are of the same line. One in whom these do not happen can do devotion. And one in whom these do not happen becomes a divine manifestation of God. Is it called forgiveness when it happens and one suppresses it, or when it does not happen at all? It is called when it happens and one suppresses it. For it not happening, many positions come in this. What are the positions of it not happening? If there is no cause, it does not happen. So it cannot be said that it did not happen. Even if a cause arises, it still does not happen. So if a cause arises and it does not happen, it means he suppressed it. If there is a cause, the action definitely happens. If there is a cause, its effect happens. But even if there is a cause, if the effect does not happen, it means he has suppressed it somewhere. And he alone is called a sadhu. So only if effort is made, sadhu-ness comes. If there is no effort, how can sadhu-ness come? If there is a person without effort and he says, "I am free from desires," then? Is he called the best sadhu or not? He is sick and does not feel like eating, so is he called free from taste or not? He doesn't feel like eating at all, even if his best favorite dish is given, he says he doesn't want it. So? Is he not called free from taste? Why is he not called so? If there is a place where laddoos are served, and there we stop ourselves from eating laddoos, then he is called free from taste. That's it. Even in the presence of causes that provoke mental disturbances like anger, if it does not occur, then it is called forgiveness. Merely not getting angry is not considered forgiveness in itself. If there are two of us, both equal, and then one of our partners goes ahead, then? Jealousy happens. Do we feel jealous? So that is called, the cause has come. If someone does well and has virtues, and people are very pleased with him, then? And we are unable to do anything. So? At that time, not letting malice happen, then that is called forgiveness. It is called being free from malice, forgiveness or being free from malice. If anger does not happen, it is called forgiveness. But this is all about the presence of a cause. When there is no cause, we are very good and beautiful. Fit to have a photo taken. When that other thing comes, is it fit to have a photo taken? At that time, wait for a moment. Merely not getting angry is not considered forgiveness in itself. That is naturally achieved by everyone in deep sleep. But even in the presence of causes that provoke anger, overcoming anger can be called forgiveness. No matter how much someone offends us, speaks harsh words to us, or beats us, even though one has the strength to retaliate, to tolerate it, even if one has the strength, only then is it called forgiveness. If we don't have it and we sit quietly, then it is not called forgiveness. It becomes our convenience. Because if we don't go to fight back, we get beaten less. Even if he takes the beating, that... ...taking the beating and still fighting back is not called forgiveness. What do you say about taking a beating, what do you say? Even if he takes the beating, it is considered foolishness. If he takes the beating? It is considered foolishness. It is considered foolishness, but still, that foolishness is beneficial. If he cannot match the opponent and still fights back, then that foolishness is called beneficial. Do not get beaten, Huh? Even if he can match the opponent, he still takes the beating. Then it is called forgiveness. Do not take it, and do not fight back either. Then that is called forgiveness. In not taking it, forgiveness does not apply, but that comes in another place. That is called intelligence. And to forgive the other person, that is called forgiveness. No matter how much someone offends us, speaks harsh words to us, or beats us, even though one has the strength to retaliate, to tolerate it, and to wish that the offender does not receive any punishment from oneself or from God, here or in the hereafter, is called forgiveness. See how detailed it is explained. 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