Perception of the indirect in the direct | Pujya Mahant Swami | Satsang Chintan

Coming into divine satsangsatsang1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company.Tap to open in glossary →, the world's dominance does not diminish, satsangsatsang1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company.Tap to open in glossary → does not become dominant, and devotion to God does not arise. A third reason for this is:

That the conviction a jiva has in the indirect form is not present in the direct form.

There is no recognition and no conviction.

The glory of the indirect is not like that of the direct.

The recognition of the indirect is not like that of the direct. There is no recognition at all.

It is said in the ShrutiShrutiThat which is revealed and heard. Philosophical and spiritual wisdom – as revealed to the rushis after strict tap and deep dhyãn. The four Veds are Shruti shãstras.Tap to open in glossary →: 'Just as one has supreme devotion to God, so too to the GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →. To such a great soul, all meanings are revealed.'

Just as the jiva has devotion to the indirect deity,

Tasy eva

Tasy eva kathita yarthah. What does that mean? Tasy eva ete, meaning tasy eva ete he artha kathitah sarve prakashanti. This Vachanamrut states that all meanings are attained. All meanings are attained. Brahmanand Swami's ghodi (a type of composition) also states this. What does it say? 'Sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj' (all tasks). 'Sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj siddhisiddhiWealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary →' (all tasks are accomplished). What is the full line? 'Trigunatit' (beyond the three gunas). No, no. It's in the first one. 'Bhav dukh tale, bale sab dushkrit, sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj siddhisiddhiWealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary →.' It's not just about accomplishing tasks for the afterlife. 'Sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj siddhisiddhiWealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary →.' It also applies to this world. Thus, eternal bliss is attained. Nishkulanand SwamiNishkulanand SwamiDisciple of Sahajanand Swami (Swaminarayan Bhagwan) and author of the Bhaktachintamani, as stated in the scripture's own closing colophon at the end of every chapter.Tap to open in glossary → and all the saints wrote that we experience much joy. It didn't say, 'Let's accomplish tasks for the afterlife.' But we experience much joy. 'Yasy deve para bhaktibhaktiDevotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti:Tap to open in glossary → yatha deve tatha guruguruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → tasyave kathita yarthah prakashante mahatmanah.' Tasy eva, not any other. All these meanings are revealed to him. Which meanings? The meanings stated in the Upanishads. The meanings stated in this Vachanamrut. The world's secondary nature and God's primary nature, the momentum in God, that happens to him. It doesn't happen to others, to anyone else. If the conviction that a jiva has in the indirect form of God comes to the direct form of HariHariAn avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra.Tap to open in glossary →, who is like a GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →, then all the meanings that are said to be attained will be attained by him. That is, if one has the same devotion towards a Shrotriya and Brahmanishtha SadguruSadguruA great sant.Tap to open in glossary → as one has towards one's Ishtadev, then no meaning of the path to moksha remains unattainable for him. No achievement remains for him. The meaning of 'GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →-ruprupA sight. One of the panch-vishays. Rup is the physical element of tej, and is perceived by the eyes. Rup reveals the appearance of all objects, and resides in all objects in a small form, and changes as objects change.Tap to open in glossary → HariHariAn avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra.Tap to open in glossary →' (HariHariAn avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra.Tap to open in glossary → in the form of a GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →) is not that some people here make their GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → directly God, fitting it to themselves. If that were the case, how many would become God? Therefore, one should not believe that. But in a true SadguruSadguruA great sant.Tap to open in glossary →, one should have the same good feeling or divine intellect as in one's Ishtadev. There is that much difference. The worship of God and self-realization in this. One has to worship God. There is no need to worship this. In this, the devotion is like God's. One step ahead of God. There is a beautiful verse somewhere that says, 'MantraMantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary →, Dvija, Deva.' If one does not have faith in these, then one's efforts will not bear fruit. No matter how much effort one makes. If one does not have faith in the mantramantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary → and keeps chanting it, keeps chanting it, then one's efforts will not bear fruit. They will not bear fruit as they should. So, if one does not have faith in the GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →, then what are one's efforts? Which efforts will not bear fruit? It's fine with the mantramantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary →. If the efforts in the mantramantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary → do not bear fruit, then what does that mean? If the efforts in the mantramantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary → do not bear fruit, then if one does not have faith in the mantramantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary →, then these efforts will not bear fruit, it is said. That is what the shastra says, it is said. 'MantraMantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary →, Dvija, Deva,' and 'Daivajna' (astrologer) and 'Vaidya' (doctor). There is a long list of many things. If there is an astrologer, a true astrologer, then if there is a confused one, there is no need to have faith in him. If there is a true astrologer, a true astrologer, but if this person does not have faith, then nothing will bear fruit. And 'Dvija, Daiva.' Dvija means one who performs yagnayagnaSacrificial worship. Ceremonial ritual performed as a form of worship to seek the good favour and receive the blessings of the devs. Different items, such as ghee, grains, wood, and spices, are offered into a sacred pit of fire in accordance with strict scriptural niyams with the chanting of mantras that are prescribed in the Veds.Tap to open in glossary →, and if he has a problem with a Brahmin, he will doubt, 'What will this person make me do?' Then how will the fruit of that yagnayagnaSacrificial worship. Ceremonial ritual performed as a form of worship to seek the good favour and receive the blessings of the devs. Different items, such as ghee, grains, wood, and spices, are offered into a sacred pit of fire in accordance with strict scriptural niyams with the chanting of mantras that are prescribed in the Veds.Tap to open in glossary → be obtained? Similarly, if there is a mantramantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary →, and if he thinks, 'What will this mantramantra1) A repeated word or phrase. 2) A sacred verbal phrase repeated in prayer, or meditation, such as ‘Swãminãrãyan’. Wicked people use mantras to cast evil curses.Tap to open in glossary → do for me?' then the effort he made will not bear fruit. The yagnayagnaSacrificial worship. Ceremonial ritual performed as a form of worship to seek the good favour and receive the blessings of the devs. Different items, such as ghee, grains, wood, and spices, are offered into a sacred pit of fire in accordance with strict scriptural niyams with the chanting of mantras that are prescribed in the Veds.Tap to open in glossary → he performs will not bear fruit. And similarly, 'Daiva.' Daiva means Ishtadev. And GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →. If one doubts Ishtadev, then how will one attain God's abode? And in the GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →, one will not succeed in life. If one has doubts about the GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →, what other efforts will one make? One will not achieve success in life. 'Sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj siddhisiddhiWealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary →' (all tasks are accomplished) will not happen to him. He will eat as much as he can fill his mouth with. The whole world fills its mouth like that. 'Sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj siddhisiddhiWealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary →.' His complete task, he will experience much joy. A true SadguruSadguruA great sant.Tap to open in glossary →, saint, and saint, he is said to be worthy of experiencing joy. The meaning of 'GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →-ruprupA sight. One of the panch-vishays. Rup is the physical element of tej, and is perceived by the eyes. Rup reveals the appearance of all objects, and resides in all objects in a small form, and changes as objects change.Tap to open in glossary → HariHariAn avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra.Tap to open in glossary →' (HariHariAn avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra.Tap to open in glossary → in the form of a GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →) is not that some people here make their GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → directly God, fitting it to themselves. What Maharaj said here in the shloka, or what was said in the Upanishads, what was said in the shloka of the Upanishads? 'Yasy deve para bhaktibhaktiDevotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti:Tap to open in glossary → yatha deve tatha guruguruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → tasyavete kathita yartha prakashante mahatmanah.' 'Yatha deve tatha guruguruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →.' 'Yatha tatha' is used there. 'Yat tat' is not used. If 'yat tat' were used, it would mean that the GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → is this. If that were used, it would not be like that. 'Yatha tatha.' What is the meaning of the word 'yatha'? In the said manner. It is a manner-indicating word. The 'thal' suffix is a manner-indicating word. The respect you show to Ishtadev, show the same respect to this. If they are true. If you get caught in the wrong, then you lose. If you get caught in the wrong and try to show the same respect, then it's like serving a wild cow. If by luck you find true ones and show the same respect to them, then all meanings will be revealed. All the attainments mentioned in the Upanishads will be yours. So, in the Upanishads, it is still said, but it is written in a seed form. The saints have written it this way. 'Bhav dukh tale, bale sab dushkrit, sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj siddhisiddhiWealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary →.' That is the main thing, that one's cycle of birth and death ends, and all sins are destroyed. That is correct. But 'sab vidhividhiThe “do’s”. That which morally should be done (in contrast to nishedh).Tap to open in glossary → karaj siddhisiddhiWealth. Riches. The siddhi are shown to bhaktas on their way to Akshardhãm, to test their love for Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary →.' Up to here, his life becomes successful here. His effort, his life's effort, becomes successful. And he becomes blessed. The meaning of 'GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →-ruprupA sight. One of the panch-vishays. Rup is the physical element of tej, and is perceived by the eyes. Rup reveals the appearance of all objects, and resides in all objects in a small form, and changes as objects change.Tap to open in glossary → HariHariAn avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra.Tap to open in glossary →' (HariHariAn avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra.Tap to open in glossary → in the form of a GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary →) is not that some people here make their GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → directly God, fitting it to themselves. If that were the case, how many would become God? Therefore, one should not believe that. But in a true SadguruSadguruA great sant.Tap to open in glossary →, one should have the same good feeling or divine intellect as in one's Ishtadev. Just as it is said in the scriptures for a chaste wife to have divine intellect in her husband. If a chaste wife considers her husband to be God, does her husband become God? No. Yet, if she has true devotion in her heart, God will surely give her fruit and influence. Similarly, cultivating the intellect or faith of Ishtadev in a true SadguruSadguruA great sant.Tap to open in glossary → is one thing, and making one's GuruGuruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → sit as God is another. That is considered betrayal for the ignorant and innocent society. But in society, the nature of most people is such that either they have conviction in the indirect, or they have conviction in dramatic artificiality, in falsehood. But it does not come in reality. That is why Maharaj says that this jiva does not have conviction in the direct. If someone now says that Ambrish lived such a life and Mirabai lived such a life, then one's head will bow down with reverence. But in the present time, if someone lives a life like theirs, seeing them does not bring conviction. Rather, doubt or boredom arises. Therefore, Maharaj had to say that the conviction that a jiva has in the indirect is not present in the direct. The faith is like a guide. It is a guide. If it gets stuck somewhere in a narrow alley, it will bring it back and take it to the other side. The limb, if it gets stuck somewhere, it cannot turn back. It's a track. If it gets on the track, Maharaj says, if it gets on the right track as soon as it comes, if it doesn't go on the wrong track, and if it gets on the right track, then it crosses. It means there will be no problem for it later. There is no need for a very clever driver. Just keep putting coal, that's all that's needed. The track will take it straight to Delhi. Maharaj said, then we should think, what kind of feeling should we have towards the Nand Saints and what kind of feeling in the direct? The Nand Saints are considered direct. One should have such a feeling towards the Nand Saints that Sukhsanakadik have become like that. It is even more than that. Maharaj said that is still considered less for us. So, that is not considered indirect. One should consider them direct. We don't have such a feeling of reverence towards the indirect, that is, Sukhsanakadik, but it is said that we have it towards the Nand Saints of Maharaj's time. The feeling in the indirect and direct, Sukhsanakadik, that is our culture's influence. It is the influence of culture. But in our culture, it was not highlighted much from the beginning, and this has been highlighted. But is there such a surrender or not? When there is 100% surrender, then it is said that he has attained direct feeling. How much did he pour into this? How much did he pour into this or on its name? And how much did he brighten or dim its brand name? Then it is called direct and indirect. Otherwise, if one just says that these are big and these are small, these are big and these are small, and makes categories of big and small, then it is not said that he has attained direct conviction. Based on time, direct. What? Indirect direct by time? No, nothing like that. It is true that Sukhsanakadik are there. In a person's mind, there is 100% conviction about Sukhsanakadik. 100% intellect, there is no flaw in that. If that same thing comes forward, then it will not remain 100%. It will just become good. So, one should consider the Nand Saints like those, and like the Nand Saints, Maharaj says, if someone is a complete devotee of God, if he has 100% firm faith in God, then he should be considered like those. What is the difference between the two? On what basis is Muktanand Swami's glory? On the basis of Maharaj's faith. On the basis of faith. If someone now has 100% faith, then he is considered like those. It is called direct and indirect. But that does not mean that many people talk like that, that those have died, so what is there in them? Stick to the living ones. What will they do for you? What will they do for you? What will they do? What will those sitting in the picture do? Worship those who are sitting alive. So, that is the desire to be worshipped. For oneself. That is not faith. The meaning of faith is surrender. Just as you are ready to surrender in the name of the indirect, similarly, be ready to surrender in the name of these Nand Saints, and if there is a perfect devotee of God, be ready to surrender in his name. Then it is called direct and indirect. It is called direct.