When do the virtues of God and saintliness come? | P. Mahant Swami | Satsang Chintan

Then Shriji Maharaj said, "One who takes the support of knowledge in God and falsifies dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, should be known as an asurasurDemon. Evil person.Tap to open in glossary → (demon)."

And in the form of God, there are such infinite auspicious qualities, which are described by Prithvi in the first canto of Shrimad Bhagavatam regarding dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

Therefore, one who has taken refuge in God, will surely have God's auspicious qualities.

And one who has firm faith in the form of God, will have the 30 characteristics of a sadhu as described in the eleventh canto.

Again, the same things.

Those are described by Prithvi in the first canto of Shrimad Bhagavatam regarding dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

Therefore, one who has taken refuge in God, will surely have God's auspicious qualities.

And one who has firm faith in the form of God, will have the 30 characteristics of a sadhu as described in the eleventh canto.

Hmm.

Therefore, one who does not possess the 30 characteristics of a saint should not be considered a complete sadhu.

And one who has firm faith in God, will surely have the auspicious qualities of God in their heart.

And when the qualities of God come into a saint, then that saint is endowed with 30 characteristics.

Therefore, from today, whoever abandons the dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → in the form of the five current vows and takes the strength of knowledge or devotion, is a betrayer of the guruguruA teacher. He will guide you on the path of kalyãn.Tap to open in glossary → and a betrayer of the word. And whoever speaks such a dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →-breaking talk should be called a non-devotee, and it should be said that "You have taken the side of the asuras, and we will not accept that." Saying this, the words of that unrighteous person should be proven false.

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If one has a relationship with God, but has animosity towards God's devotee.

Then auspicious qualities do not come in him.

Maharaj says it is demonic, the word demonic is used there.

If one has a relationship with God, the relationship with God is eternal for the jiva, if one wants to break it, one can break it.

The relationship with God is permanent, it is an eternal relationship.

Whether one keeps it or not, one has that relationship with God.

So, auspicious qualities come through the relationship with the devotee.

If one has a relationship with God and respects God's devotee, or has a relationship with them.

Relationship means dedication.

There is dedication in it.

Then auspicious qualities come in it.

Here too, Maharaj said the same thing.

He would go around God.

But there is hatred for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → within.

And there is disrespect for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

Then auspicious qualities do not come in him, but demonic tendencies come.

Auspicious qualities do not come.

Even if he respects God, he still has hatred.

It is said here that if one has faith in God and uses that faith to discredit dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

Maharaj has used the word 'wrong'.

Its meaning is that he hates.

It's not that if one is incomplete in dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, demonic tendencies will come.

But if he has an aversion from within, that brings out his demonic nature.

He doesn't like it at all, and there's disrespect, there's hatred within.

So many people outwardly follow dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, but inwardly they have hatred and think, 'How can it be destroyed?'

That's his attitude.

So Maharaj says that is called a demonic tendency.

Thus, they sit with great respect for God, praising God's glory and all, but without devotion.

But if there is an inner tendency to violate the boundaries, then that is called a demonic tendency.

That is called a hidden demon.

Those are called open, this is hidden.

He has a demonic nature.

The hatred towards dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → from within, which people might not notice, but it exists internally.

And there is an inner tendency to violate the boundaries.

Then that is called a hidden demon.

He is hidden.

So Maharaj hasn't said anything about hidden in that.

But its meaning is that one has faith in God, devotion to God, and great respect for God.

And he hates religious practices.

If he hates religious practices, it means he harms those who perform religious practices.

If there is hatred for religious practices, it means he hates and harms others who perform religious practices.

Perhaps he cannot do it outwardly.

Then Maharaj said that it should be known as a demonic tendency.

As long as there is hatred for religious practices, even if one has faith in God, the auspicious qualities of God will not come.

Maharaj says that by faith, the qualities of God come.

One who has faith in God, then the auspicious qualities of God come in him.

And when the auspicious qualities of God come, then the 30 characteristics of a sadhu come in him.

So, the 30 characteristics of a sadhu are harder than that.

As long as one does not have faith in God and does not have the auspicious qualities of God, the qualities of saintliness will not come in him.

Good qualities come.

The qualities of saintliness do not come.

What is the difference between good qualities and saintliness?

Purpose.

That the purpose is different.

Those good qualities cannot be used for the welfare of others.

He can do it to achieve his own selfish motives.

And such good qualities are also found in demons.

Cleverness, good qualities mean cleverness, it's called skill.

So, was skill more in demons or in gods?

Skill was more in demons.

The demons' fear.

Medical science

Shukracharya

Shukracharya had Sanjeevani.

And that demoness named Jara performed Jarasandha's operation.

So Bhima could not defeat him.

He performed the entire operation.

Of two halves.

The demoness named Jara.

Her demonic engineering knowledge was there.

Mayadanava had built the Sudharma Sabha.

And Vishwakarma had created Dwarka.

So the creation of Dwarka was not like the Sudharma Sabha.

Where there was water, land would appear, and where there was land, water would appear. Where there was a door, a wall would appear, and where there was a wall, a door would appear.

He had created such an assembly.

So whose skill?

Sadhu-ness.

Virtues mean skill.

When the benevolent qualities of God come, then benevolent qualities are a kind of skill.

But it also has benevolence.

The skill that God has and after that.

So Maharaj said that when one has firm faith in God, then those benevolent qualities come.

When benevolent qualities come, then the qualities of sadhuta come in it.

Maharaj said that if there is refuge, then benevolent qualities come.

So refuge and firm faith are taken as synonyms.

If there is firm faith and

First, let's take a very micro view of how firm faith is established.

So first firm faith is established and then refuge is taken.

Mostly, that's how its procedure is described.

When one has firm faith that this God is mine, then one takes refuge in Him.

He takes refuge, does what he likes, does that.

First, there should be firm faith, right?

Without firm faith, no one does what they like.

And without firm faith, one can take refuge in anyone.

But first, one recognizes God, then one takes refuge in God.

In recognition, firm faith is established.

And after firm faith, refuge is taken.

After taking refuge, the qualities of sadhuta come.

After firm faith, those qualities come.

It seemed that Maharaj had shown some kind of sequence.

So, benevolent qualities, skill, often come, but still, sadhuta does not come.

Sadhuta comes when there is firm faith in God and respect for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → within.

Then the qualities of sadhuta come.

If there is only firm faith in God and devotion is very strong, but still, the qualities of sadhuta do not come.

That's what Maharaj said.

It can be said that there is a deficiency in firm faith, which is why there is disrespect for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

That is the meaning of both.

That firm faith is a mockery, hypocrisy.

That is not firm faith.

If he has true firm faith, then he should have respect for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

DharmaDharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → is a part of God.

Maharaj says, to whom does benevolent dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → take refuge?

It takes refuge in the murtimurti1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary → of God.

Therefore, one who has devotion to the murtimurti1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn.Tap to open in glossary → of God, in them, benevolent qualities come.

And benevolent qualities are called dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → in it.

In another place, Maharaj said that

Benevolent qualities are called dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

In the Vachanamrut about dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, which is about firm faith in the form of God and firm faith in dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, Maharaj said the same thing.

That the benevolent qualities of God are dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → itself.

Those are virtues.

And that is dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

And in that, respect for this scripture also comes.

God, in some places, Maharaj has said that suppose one respects God but disrespects a devotee, then benevolent qualities do not come in them.

Benevolent qualities, respect for God is common.

Benevolent qualities come from respecting devotees.

And similarly, firm faith in God is common.

But if there is firm faith in God and hatred for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, then neither benevolent qualities nor the qualities of sadhuta come in it.

So, he should have inner respect for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, extreme respect.

Even in his dreams, King Yudhishthira would not abandon dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

All the Pandavas, their character was very excellent.

That Bhima was such that he would never commit adharmaadharmaUnrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline.Tap to open in glossary →.

He was boisterous and stubborn.

He would beat all those people.

But no one would ever wish to beat him without reason.

Bhim.

Not because of a devotee, he might trouble everyone in games.

But he never did this to anyone.

When Duryodhana fed the Pandavas, specifically Bhima, poisoned laddus, Duryodhana was 13-14 years old.

A 13-14 year old boy gets such an idea.

That he should kill him.

Kill Bhima.

He is our obstacle.

So, kill him.

What do you call a 14-year-old boy?

And back then, even if they grew up, what would come? This 14-year-old boy.

At that time, Duryodhana's age must have been 14 years, 13-14 years.

And at the age of 13-14, he made such a plan.

That he should kill us.

And then, after a short while, he made such a plan that he would kill all the Pandavas.

Kill all the Pandavas.

So this is the hatred of dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → and the dharmic.

When he tried to burn him in the house of lac, Yudhishthira was then the next in line to be king, what do we call him, Yuvaraj, he was on the post of Yuvaraj, and on the post of Yuvaraj, he had conquered all directions, so his fame had spread far and wide.

So Duryodhana made such a plan, Duryodhana and all the Shakunis made such a plan, that they would burn him and kill all the Pandavas.

The Pandavas could never even dream of such a thing, not even Bhima could think of it.

Bhima never, in his life, tried to kill anyone without reason, or did anything like that, it's not in his life.

It was when Draupadi was disrobed that Bhima took a vow that he alone would kill all the Kauravas.

He does that.

But in his heart, there is never any sudden hatred towards anyone.

There is no hatred without reason.

It's not in his blood.

Not in his blood.

All the Pandavas.

So, if one has faith in God but has hatred for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → or disrespect for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary → from within, if one has an allergy to dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, then even if one has faith in God, auspicious qualities will not come.

Maharaj said the same thing in the 62nd Vachanamrut.

That if one has faith in God, but has an allergy to a devotee, then auspicious qualities will not come.

Auspicious qualities only come when there is respect for God and then respect for dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, then auspicious qualities come.

If there is respect for God and respect for God's devotee, then auspicious qualities come, and saintliness also comes with it.

So first, auspicious qualities come, and those qualities are in the form of power.

Truth, purity, compassion, peace, all these show his power.

And opulence.

God's qualities of saintliness and God's qualities.

Maharaj said that the qualities of saintliness are mentioned in the Eleventh Canto.

And the qualities of God are mentioned in the First Canto.

Truth, purity, compassion, peace, renunciation, contentment, straightforwardness.

And being merciful, not being envious, these are the qualities of saintliness.

So what is the big difference between the qualities of saintliness and the qualities of God?

Where is the difference that these are called qualities of saintliness and these are called qualities of God?

God's qualities are self-oriented, and the others are other-oriented.

Welfare.

Why?

What does saintliness say, you, God's qualities?

It is person-centric.

And the others are dedicated to others.

It's not like that.

God's qualities are truth, purity, compassion, peace.

What is truth?

The ultimate good of all beings.

Those who do good for others.

And this is merciful.

So what is mercy?

Power.

The power to do good for others.

If someone surrenders and says, 'Maharaj, I am at your feet.'

Then he makes this resolve that, Maharaj, you take care of him.

If he has the power, Maharaj will take care of him, otherwise, if he is completely zero, what will he take care of?

The power to do good for others is the same in both.

It's not about being person-centric or anything else.

So what's the difference between the two?

In the management of this creation, the qualities of God are more useful for the management of creation.

And those qualities, purity, where did that purity come in handy in the management of creation?

Purity, what is it called? What do you call purity?

Purity, external and internal purity.

Self-disgust, yes.

Its fruit is self-disgust.

Self-disgust from purity, self-disgust, yes.

Self-disrespect.

How much self-disrespect is there in God, it's at the peak, like that.

Maharaj says that Maharaj told us that we are devotees of devotees, if we don't have that much, then he won't entrust us with anything.

And Maharaj performed the charitras in Loj, asking everyone for that.

How much self-disrespect shines through in that.

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Self-disgust, no disrespect for one's own personality, disrespect for God's devotee.

So then it is called purity.

That is true purity.

Don't touch me, don't touch me, making a fuss.

That's good, it's true, not false.

But from that, this should come, but it doesn't come like that.

From that, it's not that all of them are useful for the management of creation, these are all just qualities.

But in truth and purity, all of them are predominantly divine.

And in the compassionate and non-cruel, all the qualities of a sadhu are predominantly spiritual practice.

Beneficial in both, in both.

That is common.

The qualities that are for the welfare of other beings.

But those are predominantly divine.

Splendor, strength, divinity, all those qualities come in it.

And in the quality of saintliness, it comes to not harm anyone, and to do this and that for someone.

In that, spiritual practice is predominant.

And only then is one called a sadhu, right?

Those qualities are predominantly spiritual practice.

And those qualities are predominantly divine.

There is a difference in both of them.

If one has faith in God, then divinity also starts to come in it.

And strength starts to come, and after strength comes, spiritual practice happens.

And when there is spiritual practice, the qualities of a sadhu come in it, and then that sadhu becomes benevolent.

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Or if there is disrespect for God's devotee.

The meaning of this is that respect for the divine person and disrespect for his qualities.

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Sitting here, he puts a garland on him, and then in the assembly, he puts a garland on him, and then he digs up that he is just this much.

God himself.

That he has no qualities.

So Maharaj says, know him as a demon.

He respects God, but he slanders his qualities, he hates his qualities.

And he has an allergy to his qualities.

He wants to spread demonic qualities.

If he wants to spread demonic qualities, how can he respect dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →?

So sometimes, big devotees have such a tendency.

Deep down, they are diggers of dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →.

They are diggers of boundaries.

Then the saint asked a question.

All these saints, the culture of Shastriji Maharaj fits everyone.

Everyone has faith, and Shastriji Maharaj, Shastriji Maharaj, Gurudev, Gurudev, everyone does it, but they dig up the culture.

All those who dig up its roots, all those who dig up its origins.

So its meaning is that he hates it.

This is God's, so God calls him a demon.

One who harms a sadhu is called a demon.

Nothing else can be said, that tendency is demonic.

God comes for the establishment of dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, so his mission should be to spread dharmadharma1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion,Tap to open in glossary →, even for his devotees.

And he should be respected.

Then Maharaj says that both benevolent qualities come in him.

Truth and purity come, and grace.

When there is anger.

The anger of the compassionate one is full of spiritual practice. Spiritual practice requires strength.

If one has the strength.

With the strength of God, one can perform spiritual practice.