Just as King Janak was wise, they may become wise, but those on the path of active worldly life cannot attain the state of perfection like Narad, Sanakadik, and Shukji. And he who is perfected, Read a little further from there, two or three lines. [inaudible] When, through samadhi, he attains an equal state with Brahma, then the jiva is also said to be Brahma-rup rup A sight. One of the panch-vishays. Rup is the physical element of tej, and is perceived by the eyes. Rup reveals the appearance of all objects, and resides in all objects in a small form, and changes as objects change. Tap to open in glossary → , and his knowledge increases. And as for the power of the senses, when there is practice of yoga accompanied by austerity, nivrutti nivrutti 1) Inactivity. State of quietness and obedience. Retirement from social duties and affairs. In this Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , and vairagya, one attains a state of perfection like Shukji. And he whose austerity, nivrutti nivrutti 1) Inactivity. State of quietness and obedience. Retirement from social duties and affairs. In this Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , and vairagya are ordinary, and who remains in the path of active worldly life consisting of dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , artha, and kama, even if he attains samadhi, only his knowledge increases, but the power of his senses does not increase to bring about the state of perfection. And just as King Janak was wise, they may become wise, So Maharaj has said in this that when samadhi occurs, one attains oneness with Brahma, is that what is written? In the previous line. When samadhi occurs, one attains oneness with Brahma, then his knowledge increases. Is that what is written? Read those two or three lines again from before. And when, through samadhi, he attains an equal state with Brahma, then the jiva is also said to be Brahma-rup rup A sight. One of the panch-vishays. Rup is the physical element of tej, and is perceived by the eyes. Rup reveals the appearance of all objects, and resides in all objects in a small form, and changes as objects change. Tap to open in glossary → , and his... Then Maharaj took that point further, that even if he attains samadhi, if there is no nivrutti nivrutti 1) Inactivity. State of quietness and obedience. Retirement from social duties and affairs. In this Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , vairagya, and practice of yoga, he does not attain the state of perfection like Shukdevji, just like King Janak. So that means Maharaj has, in a way, indirectly said in this that King Janak had indeed attained oneness with Brahma, with Brahma. That is what it means, right? That is what it can be said to mean. That King Janak did have oneness with Brahma, he was established in samadhi; though there is no explicit clarification of this in some places, indirectly King Janak was established in samadhi. So which samadhi? Yogeshwar was in his court, so was King Janak himself sitting down to perform pranayama? That means it would be a samadhi of knowledge, as Maharaj... one can infer, because looking at all the situations and characters, King Janak must have attained the samadhi of knowledge. Actually, King Janak... to Yogeshwar... yoga, yoga... through his own yogic yogic That which is of a yog or yogi. [Vadtãl – 4]. Tap to open in glossary → divine power, that he had shown the city of Mithila burning. For those Yogeshwars, he had shown it through his own divine power. So divine power was certainly present in him. So perhaps he had attained the samadhi of knowledge, and since he was active in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , artha, and kama, through the samadhi of knowledge, he had attained oneness with Brahma. And Shukdevji and others, through ashtanga yoga, nivrutti nivrutti 1) Inactivity. State of quietness and obedience. Retirement from social duties and affairs. In this Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , and their practice, had attained that state of perfection. And Maharaj's point is that both are equal. The former does not have any less knowledge, and the latter does not have less knowledge either. But in other places, Maharaj has, in some places, said that Maharaj has made the samadhi of ashtanga yoga secondary, and Maharaj has elevated the samadhi of knowledge. Vachanamrut... even in the first Vachanamrut of Vadtal, Maharaj said that the method of samadhi is different. The method is different, which means Maharaj's indication is towards a samadhi like that of King Janak. King Janak would not go astray. One who has the samadhi of knowledge, meaning his faith in God has been established through knowledge, he would never go astray. And the one with the samadhi of ashtanga yoga, he does obtain knowledge, but here Maharaj... here Maharaj has called both equal. In this Vachanamrut, Maharaj has called both equal. That is... rather than calling them equal, he has not made a comparison, but it is not that his knowledge becomes less; knowledge does occur. The knowledge that was obtained in samadhi, when he returns from that samadhi, he does not forget it here. The yogic yogic That which is of a yog or yogi. [Vadtãl – 4]. Tap to open in glossary → divine power that King Janak showed, is that not called a state of perfection? It is not called a state of perfection. King Janak cannot fly and go directly to Shvetadvip, can he? Here, if divine power... that must be happening when one attains oneness with Brahma, so divine power must be occurring. Divine power must be coming. Parvatbhai and others, were they all in the state of perfection? Divine power was present in them. Divine power was indeed present, such that they could do whatever they wished, all that divine power. That brother, Bhimbhai, when he went to the farm, he thought, 'When will these ants be liberated?' and immediately spacecraft arrived. So that is certainly called divine power, isn't it? This happens by his resolve. It is called divine power. Divine power was indeed present in all of them in that. But there was no nivrutti nivrutti 1) Inactivity. State of quietness and obedience. Retirement from social duties and affairs. In this Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , so the state of perfection did not come. Otherwise, Govardhanbhai and others were also established in samadhi. Govardhanbhai was established in samadhi. Parvatbhai's name does not appear among those established in samadhi, or in many accounts, but Govardhanbhai was established in samadhi. So he could not go in the way Santdasji went. That means they were active in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , artha, and kama. So among our sadhus also, there were those established in samadhi, but as for those with the state of perfection, did Muktanand Swami or even Gopalanand Swami himself have a state of perfection like that of Santdasji? That they could go somewhere else in an instant and return, such a samadhi which Maharaj called the state of perfection, he called that the state of perfection of Narad, Sanakadik, Narad, and Shuk. And they were established in samadhi nevertheless, but for the sake of the sampraday, though Maharaj would not call it dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , artha, and kama, they engaged in worldly activities, in satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → activities. So it is not that their knowledge became any less. Their knowledge was complete. And they were established in samadhi, but the state of perfection did not come. The state of perfection was only with someone like Sachchidanand Swami or Santdasji; they had the state of perfection. Gopalanand Swami and others possessed divine power, they possessed samadhi, and yet it is not called the state of perfection. It is not considered the state of perfection that Maharaj described here. Because they were active in the path of active life. Again, the path of active life here, which Maharaj mentioned as dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , artha, and kama, not that, but they were active in the path of satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → activity. So even if they are active in the path of satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → activity and possess samadhi, the state of perfection does not come, that is how it is. So there remained that much difference between King Janak and Gopalanand Swami, right? King Janak was active in all activities of dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , artha, and kama, whereas Gopalanand Swami's activity is satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → activity. That cannot be called that other activity; it is even superior to samadhi. To perform satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → activity, Maharaj, Maharaj himself has come, and Maharaj has called it even superior to samadhi. 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