Then the Muni Muni Sãdhu. Tap to open in glossary → asked a question, "O Maharaj, this subtle body is just like the physical body. So, does karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → affect the subtle body in the same way it affects the physical body, or is there some difference?" Then Shriji Maharaj spoke, "If there is the same firm belief of self-identification with the subtle body as there is with the physical body, then karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → affects the subtle body in the same way it affects the physical body." How is it known that there is a firm belief in the subtle body? Everyone has a firm belief in the physical body. "I." We have a firm belief in the subtle body. Maharaj said, didn't he, that if there is a firm belief in the subtle body, then one incurs karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → like that of the physical body. If it is in the subtle body. If one makes a resolve, then karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → is incurred. So, how does one know that this person has a firm belief in the subtle like that of the physical? The desire to have one's own way. That too is true. There is ego. Ego of what? There are many types of ego, like "I am very powerful." But ego of what? In the subtle body. "I am wise." Wisdom. All wisdom lies in the subtle body, doesn't it? Or in the physical body? Like, "My intellect is very clever." Whom do you consider clever? You consider the intellect. One's skills are all attributed to the subtle body. Intellect, all of that. If one has great pride in one's own wisdom, then Maharaj says he incurs the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → of resolve. Karma Karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → is incurred. And if one's wisdom is less, then the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → of resolve is not incurred.That is the benefit of keeping wisdom. "I am wiser than everyone else." At least, I am wiser than my competitor. Like, "I am wiser than the one next to me, than my competitor, than my peer." It is like that everywhere, isn't it? Where there is this difference, one does not compare one's wisdom much. "I am wiser than you," there is not much comparing like that. So, those who are equal feel, "I am wiser than him." And what is that called? Pride of the subtle body. He has pride of the subtle body. Just as it is in the physical, it is the same in the subtle body. And then, he incurs as many subtle karmas as the resolves he makes. If he does not have pride of the subtle body, thinking, "I have no wisdom and I am a servant of God," then he does not incur the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → of the subtle body. It is like that. Pride of the physical body. Everyone has pride of the physical body, don't they? When a mosquito bites, do we feel it or not? Do we get angry at the mosquito or not? The mosquito doesn't know, though, that "this person is angry with me." It still keeps going. If the physical body suffers any harm, one immediately becomes aware, feels pain, and seeks a remedy. That is of the physical body. If the subtle body suffers any harm, and one becomes aware, feels pain, and seeks a remedy, that is pride of the subtle body. What is harm to the subtle body? When things don't go as the mind desires. When things don't go as the mind desires. When we fall short in some comparison, that is the subtle body. When two are being compared, like, "Between Vishwamangal Swami and Sadgun Swami, who is better?" So, if you say one is better, then? "Fine, you get everything done by him if everything is so fine." He does things fine, doesn't he? Or not? So, that was a blow to the subtle body. So, the subtle body is now not ready to do anything. Pride, the jasmine flower, withers, doesn't it? Like, if we are not praised, the jasmine flower still withers. Even if we are not criticized, but someone else is praised, this person's jasmine flower still withers. So, that is said to be a blow to the subtle body. And when actions and reactions occur at that time, it means he has a firm belief in the subtle body. And Maharaj says, then he incurs all the karmas of the subtle body just like those of the physical body. Otherwise, it is said in the scriptures that the karmas of the subtle body are fewer. But if there is belief, they are not fewer. If he has a primary belief in the physical body within the subtle body, and some secondary status in the subtle body, then he incurs secondary karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → . How does belief happen? This is to be tested. Belief changes only if one breaks it oneself. Even if God comes—God came here to break it, but still no one does it. Why does God come here on Earth? He comes to reduce that pride, doesn't He? Still, does anyone do it? Still, no one does it. If one feels in one's mind, "I want to reduce it," then it happens. That is called mumukshuta (desire for liberation). The urge or hunger that arises to reduce one's own flaws is called mumukshuta. If there is no such desire at all, and one keeps looking only at others, then that is... that is called prakrut-ta (worldliness). It is said that he is worldly. The whole world does just that. So, it is called worldly. To reduce one's own flaws—regardless of how others are, how can our flaws be reduced? If one hungers for this in one's mind, then it is called mumukshuta. If one accepts it, one is called divine (daivi). If one accepts it, one is called divine. If one objects, one is called demonic (asuri). "Why do you tell only me?" "Am I the only one like this?" Then that is a demonic attitude. Then Shriji Maharaj spoke, "If there is the same firm belief of self-identification with the subtle body as there is with the physical body, then karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → affects the subtle body in the same way it affects the physical body." "And that the karmas of the subtle body are said to be few, that is only to give encouragement to the jiva." Maharaj says, "In the subtle body, excessive karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → can be incurred in no time. So, if I say, 'Brother, if this happens to you,' then he would lose heart. Therefore, Maharaj says, the authors of the scriptures said so." "They are indeed fewer, but only if there is no firm belief. If there is no firm belief in it, then they are fewer." "And that the karmas of the subtle body are said to be few, that is only to give encouragement to the jiva. And he who has no pride in the physical body or the subtle body, does not incur even the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → of the physical body, nor" "He does not incur even that of the physical body, and" "does he incur the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → of the subtle body. 'Yasya nahankrito bhavo buddhiryasya na lipyate, hatvapi sa imallokanna hanti na nibadhyate.' He who has no ego and no attachment, does not incur physical karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → , nor does he incur subtle karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → ." So, what remains if both are not there? There is a purpose. He wants to serve God, and there is a focus, a goal, to please God. If there are other goals, then it is not so. If there are other goals, then as many as there are, they are incurred. But if the goal is solely to please God, and he is taking action towards it, then even if he makes a mistake, he does not incur karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → . It is like that. If understanding of karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → comes, how does one separate oneself? When right and wrong happen, if he separates them, then he is said to have separated himself from the resolve. "This resolve of mine was right, and this was not right"—only then does he know, if he is separate from it. If he has merged with it, then there is no question of whether it is right or not right. If I perform any action and separate myself from the action, then I know, "Brother, this action of mine was not done right." If I believe it to be right, then how can I be said to have separated myself? So, if he learns to see his actions and his resolves as reasonable or unreasonable, then he is said to have separated himself. And if they are all "all right," then he is said to not have separated himself. "And he who has no pride in the physical body or the subtle body, does not incur even the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → of the physical body, nor does he incur the karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → of the subtle body." "Because he behaves solely as the soul. Therefore, one who is such a knower of the soul does not incur karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → related to the physical body or the subtle body." "And with this body, he certainly does not perform inauspicious deeds. And whatever happiness or misery comes according to destiny, he experiences it. And while experiencing it, he believes, 'I am not the experiencer of it, I am the soul.'" "I am a servant of God." AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details