And the kind of intense attachment one has towards the body, the five sensory pleasures, and God, is not there towards the Sant Sant A sãdhu. A tyãgi. In the Vachanãmrut, sant refers to sat- purush. Tap to open in glossary → And the Sant Sant A sãdhu. A tyãgi. In the Vachanãmrut, sant refers to sat- purush. Tap to open in glossary → Then Swami said, "There is no intense attachment towards Shri Hariji either." That is revealed when one has dealings with Maharaj. It is said, "A sadhu is known through his dealings." There is no one on this side, and who knows if there is anyone on that side. There is no one on that side either. And the conviction of Shri Hariji's greatness and of atman-realization, if one practices it repeatedly with persistence, considering daily dissolution etc., then intense attachment and a sense of oneness develop. Then, he spoke at length about maintaining persistence, using the example of a devotee. Take this. What was it? What did you understand? One should daily study the discourses of Shriji Maharaj. What was the core point of the talk? What was it? What was it? There is no intense attachment to the Sadhu, on this side or that side. Okay, I see. The core point was, that developing intense attachment to the Sadhu is the core point. Should it be towards God or towards the Sadhu? Then, towards God? That should be done later, afterwards. The Sadhu is the one who enables attachment towards God. Whether to develop intense attachment towards God or not, he enables that. We cannot do it on our own. Ours would only be according to our own mind's whim. If he enables that intense attachment, then true attachment towards God is formed. If one does it on one's own, it becomes an attachment of ego. It does not become attachment towards God. So, if one believes they have intense attachment towards God, if someone assumes so, even then, to purify that attachment, one must develop attachment towards the Sadhu. Once he enables it, then develop it towards God. Not on one's own. The talk was coming up earlier, right? What should vairagya be like? The Sadguru Sadguru A great sant. Tap to open in glossary → One who has attained vairagya through the words of the Sadguru Sadguru A great sant. Tap to open in glossary → and has attained firm dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → Sadguru Sadguru A great sant. Tap to open in glossary → if one is like that, then the husk of birth and death is removed from him. Just as the husk is removed from paddy, similarly, the husk of birth and death is removed from him. Then God showers grace upon him, and 'niranjanah paramam samyamupaiti' (the pure soul attains supreme qualitative equality with God). He becomes like God. But he cannot become like God on his own. "I want to become like God," then, one can act. In plays, they portray God, even Maharaj. So, he can act. He does not actually become like God. To become like God, the creator chooses someone else, and he must know how to do it. One who knows how to mold a pot can mold a pot, but what if he doesn't? And what if he doesn't know how? If he taps it, he might break it. Therefore, they are the ones who enable intense attachment in everyone, isn't that what was said? The Sadhu is, the one who enables intense attachment towards God, indeed. So, first if attachment is formed towards him, then it is formed towards the other. If attachment is not formed towards him, then it becomes attachment according to one's own mind. What is called intense attachment? What is called intense attachment? To remain aligned with his wishes in mind, action, and speech, and nothing happens outside of his wishes. It has penetrated deep into the soul, that is called intense attachment. If it has penetrated thoroughly into his soul, then he is said to have developed intense attachment. Such intense attachment—Maharaj said in the Vachanamrut, one who finds satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → what are his characteristics? Finding satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → Satsang Satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → One who finds God greater than all other endeavors, what are his characteristics? Wherever he is, he brings God to the forefront first. Isn't it so? What does he say? He brings God's Sadhu to the forefront first. It is said so. If one finds satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → Yes? What are they like? What are they like, brother? His actions... He sings of His divine actions and episodes. Tell me what Maharaj has said in that regard. That, just as there is a very great king who has no son, and has heaps of wealth but no son, and then in his old age, a son is born, and he misbehaves, causes trouble, knocks off his father's turban, urinates in his lap, even then, does he feel affection for him? Why? He has developed intense attachment towards him. He has developed intense attachment towards his son. Such... then, in what did Maharaj say one should have such intense attachment? Yes? In the Sadhu. If such intense attachment towards God's ekantik Sadhu is formed, then he has found satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → And to him, God also is known to be greater. Otherwise, it means one's own ego is found to be greater, so it is said. "Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke sva-dhih kalatradishu bhauma ijya-dhih, yat-tirtha-buddhih salile na karhicij janeshv abhijneshu sa eva go-kharah." If he has not developed such intense attachment towards God's ekantik Sadhu, then he is like a donkey or an ox. Is it attachment towards God or towards God's Sadhu? What was said? In the Sadhu. So, should it be developed towards God or towards the Sadhu? In what should it be developed? In what do you develop it? In the Sadhu. Intense attachment should be developed towards God only, right? Then would we be considered bhagvadi (devotees of God), or if we do it towards the Sadhu... if one develops attachment towards the Sadhu, he is considered a sadhudiya (devotee of Sadhu). And if he develops attachment towards God? Bhagvadi. That's what is said, right? Or not? So, would you like to become a bhagvadi or a sadhudiya? Bhagvadi. Then? Not bhagvadi? What? First become a sadhudiya, then a bhagvadi. Then become a bhagvadi. In the second place. In the second choice, become a bhagvadi. You are already a bhagvadi, right? Or not? To become a bhagvadi or what... what to become, brother? What do you like? Do you like to become a bhagvadi or? Sadhudiya. Sadhudiya. Because currently, songs of sadhudiya are being sung. Otherwise, one ultimately becomes a bhagvadi indeed. We should become bhagvadi indeed. Maharaj said no. He hasn't said no, but first become this. Then become that. What should be called intense attachment? If there is extreme love, then intense attachment is formed. Extreme. First ego, then possessiveness, then attachment, then aversion, and then? Intense attachment. Is intense attachment a virtue or a vice? It depends on the object... it depends on the object of attachment. It depends on where it is directed. If intense attachment is formed according to our own mind's whim, then it is a vice. And if it is formed towards God and the Sadhu, then it is called a virtue. First of all, ego... what is the difference between ego and pride? "This person is very egotistical, and this person is very proud." What is the difference, brother? In pride, one has expectations from others. In ego? In ego, it is even stronger than pride. What is more than pride? Then... the proud one would say, "Mine is greater." They both fight and argue over who is greater. What is the difference between ego and pride, brother Swamiji? In ego, one keeps saying 'I, I', meaning... "I... I am everything, I have done everything, or I am everything." Or zoom, what did you say? He keeps saying 'I, I'. I thought you said he zooms. That is called zooming indeed, right? He zooms in on 'I'. In ego, it's not just about saying 'I', but about 'mine' and 'yours'. "This is mine." Then, he does not let what is 'mine' be used by anyone else. "Mine." "And yours." That is called ego. And pride? Pride means, even if one has not done anything, he expects credit. Even if he hasn't done it? Even then, he expects it. Even if he hasn't done it? He expects to be worshiped. A sense of being worthy of worship regarding oneself, that is called pride. "I am very good, I am a bhagvadi," "I am a devotee, I am a sadhu," "I am senior," "I am someone who never makes a mistake," all such things. So, what is that called? Pride. That is called pride. And which is called ego? That "I will hoard whatever is mine." "I will not let anyone else use it." Even if it is our virtue. Our objects, our virtue, should it be of use to anyone else, no. Then it is called ego. Mostly, both are found together. But still, this is the difference between the two. Ego is different, and pride is different. From what does intense attachment arise? It arises from ego only. Its root is ego. After ego, possiveness, 'mine'. After 'mine', attachment. After attachment, aversion. And after aversion, intense attachment. So, both positive and negative aspects are there. If one believes "I am a servant of God," even then it is formed. And if one considers everything that belongs to God as 'mine', then shouldn't he feel pain within? If something of God's is being ruined, then? Do we feel pain? Suppose something of God's is being ruined, the institution's is being ruined, or the satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details