By taking refuge in a demonic nature, the monstrous and delusive natures also naturally come and reside. Due to the predominance of desire, the demonic nature comes in. Due to the predominance of anger, the monstrous nature comes in, and due to the predominance of delusive ignorance, the delusive nature, meaning due to the predominance of ignorance, the delusive nature comes in. The implication is that where desire is predominant, the monstrous nature of anger definitely comes in. From anger arises delusion. Such delusion also arises from greed and also from foolishness. The result of taking refuge in these natures makes the conscious being unconscious. That is, it robs him of his discrimination. It makes him inert, devoid of discrimination. It makes his consciousness opposed to the Supreme Lord. Therefore, he becomes one of futile knowledge. No matter how intense the consciousness that goes against the Supreme Lord, it is still unsuccessful. Futile knowledge. One may have all the knowledge, but there is no result. They may know the knowledge very well. If there is no result, then of what use is it? The one that is needed to bring results, such is his knowledge. That is futile knowledge. If one does not have faith in God and does not have God's refuge, and tries to show too much wisdom through one's own efforts, then there is no result, so he becomes one of futile knowledge. Knowledge is indeed there. Is knowledge greater in the demonic or in the divine? Who has more? The demonic has more. They are the ones who work hard. Those who work hard for knowledge. They memorize the Upanishads. Ravana had them all. And this one, even if he has taken a lesson, does not even memorize a verse of Raghuvamsha. So where did that other person's knowledge go? Futile knowledge. For one who does not have God's refuge and faith, none of his desires are fulfilled. No matter how many desires they have. It does not happen. Futile actions. All his actions go in vain. Even if they are smart and intelligent, do their actions still fail? If one button is fastened wrongly, then all of them are fastened wrongly. So if the very first button is fastened wrongly, then not a single button will be straight. Otherwise, even if we fasten all the buttons, one side remains like this and one side remains like that. That is futile actions. Even proper actions do not come about. If one does not have God's refuge, and yet appears successful in the world, how is that? Successful does not mean just acquiring money, or just acquiring power; that is not considered success from the perspective of the scriptures. His entire life goes in vain. His entire life goes in vain. Then, even if they are successful here and perhaps acquire money, that is a different matter. Or if they come into power, but his life goes in vain. And a life gone in vain means that all his actions are in vain. Do all actions come together to make one life? So all actions have gone in vain. And because the actions have gone in vain, that is futile knowledge. With what understanding must he have done them? With what understanding must he have done those works that he did not get a single success? So whatever understanding there is, all of it is called futile. It is unsuccessful. The result of taking refuge in these natures makes the conscious being unconscious. That is, it robs him of his discrimination. It makes him inert, devoid of discrimination. Unconscious means emotionless. So does he not have feelings? He does have feelings. Eh? Only for himself. Not for the other person. It makes his consciousness opposed to the Supreme Lord. Therefore, he becomes one of futile knowledge. No matter how intense the consciousness that goes against the Supreme Lord, it is still unsuccessful. He cannot obtain the desired fruit of his own efforts. This is his state of futile knowledge. All his desires become futile in the final stage. Ravana, Hiranyakashipu, Kansa... Ravana had a golden Lanka. Ramachandraji did not have a golden Ayodhya, so should Ravana be called successful? Therefore, futile knowledge, futile actions, and futile hopes. All that he had built up was shattered to pieces by a single arrow of Rama. Not by a single arrow of Rama, but by a single arrow of Time. Rama was merely an instrument. By a single arrow of Time, all were shattered. Otherwise, you say, right, that they are successful people. So should Ravana be considered successful or not? Ravana should definitely not be considered so. Why? What did he not have that he was not successful? What was his flaw that he was not successful? But his life was not successful. His entire life was not successful. At the time of death, he would not feel that he had lived a meaningful life. No matter how much he had enjoyed. Through the history of the lives of Ravana, Hiranyakashipu, Kansa, etc., even someone like Vyas Bhagwan felt that he was lacking something. Even though he had done only good things. Therefore, without faith in God, no one ever gets life satisfaction. One should get life satisfaction, right? That we lived very well, that we succeeded this time, when does that happen? No matter how much intelligence one applies, it is not that a person becomes successful through intelligence alone. In God, then, it is written as 'knowing or unknowingly'. In the eleventh canto, 'knowing or unknowingly'. 'Knowing or unknowingly' has both meanings. Knowing again and again. And 'knowing or unknowingly', that is how its conjunction is split. So whether one does it knowingly or unknowingly. Shabri Bhilni, it was not that she did it knowingly, by knowing the glory of God, but she felt that she had lived this life well. She succeeded. Her life became successful. God... even in ignorance, faith in God came about. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details