Then, Shreeji Maharaj asked a question to all the Paramhansas, “No matter how stubborn one's nature is, if we contemplate on one thought, that nature is destroyed; and leaving that thought aside, even if one contemplates on thousands of other thoughts, still that evil nature is not eradicated. What is that thought?” Let each of you explain this according to your understanding.” Then, the Paramhansas explained according to their respective understandings, but no one could explain it precisely. Then, Shreeji Maharaj said, “Let Me explain. Just as if there is an external enemy of ours, who spoils some work of ours that is being done, or abuses one's mother or sister, and we develop an intense dislike for him, and we take whatever measures to cause harm to him, or if someone else harms that enemy, we feel extremely pleased; similarly, those who are striving for moksha, and if the internal enemies like lust, anger, etc., obstruct them, then they should develop the same enmity towards them, and the vigilance against them should never diminish. One who grasps such a thought, eradicates all enemies through that thought. And when some Sadhu denounces these enemies like lust, etc., and exposes those enemies, then one who has the aforementioned thought will not develop dislike for that Sadhu; on the contrary, he will appreciate the virtues of that Sadhu immensely, and will think, 'This Sadhu is helping me destroy my enemies,' therefore, he is my greatest well-wisher.' One who has attained such a thought in his heart, destroys all enemies, and no evil nature can remain in his heart. And without this, no matter how many other thoughts one contemplates on, the enemies in the form of lust, etc., will not be destroyed. Therefore, maintaining enmity towards those natures is the best thought among all thoughts.” Then, Shreeji Maharaj asked another question, “Dharma Dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , vairagya, self-realization, and devotion to God with the knowledge of His greatness— one who never falls from these four attributes at any time, by what characteristics should he be recognized?” Then, all the Sadhus explained according to their respective understandings, but no one could explain it precisely. Then, Shreeji Maharaj said, “One who, from childhood, has such a nature that he is never suppressed under anyone's influence. And wherever he is seated, no one can indulge in mockery or jesting.” And no one can engage in any bad activities. So, what does that mean? That he is not suppressed by anyone. Others are suppressed by him. He is not suppressed by anyone. Others are suppressed by him. So, who is suppressed? Weak people are suppressed. On the contrary, good people feel happy about it. If some good leader comes, like if a good PM comes, then good people feel happy with him. They are not suppressed. Who is to be suppressed? Weak people are to be suppressed. Narendra Modi has come, but who is to be suppressed? Those who are wicked, who want to do wrong, who are weak, who want to nurture weakness, they are to be suppressed. Then, Shreeji Maharaj said, Maharaj, in that 60th Vachanamrut, it is mentioned about eradicating vikshep, right? Whether vikshep occurs or not. Is that good or not? So Maharaj says, “When Ramanand Swami passed away to Dham, Raghunathdas did not feel any vikshep. And there were other devotees of God, they all felt great grief. So, are they not self-realized? Maharaj said, 'By what is vikshep eradicated?' One is self-realization. If one has self-realization, vikshep is eradicated through that. And the other is vairagya, vikshep is eradicated through that. So, all of them felt vikshep in their minds—vikshep means grief. They felt grief in their hearts, so are they all not self-realized and possessing vairagya? And is Raghunathdas alone self-realized and possessing vairagya? That is relative, so Maharaj has spoken in that sense. That one should not be suppressed by the weak. And one should suppress the weak. It is said that if he is seated, no one can indulge in mockery there, no jesting can take place. So, it means that bad activities should not be pleased by it. And good activities should flourish, by his presence. Still, he would never fall from his path. If weak people feel happy in our presence, and good people feel troubled; then how should our presence be considered? How should our presence be considered? Meaning? If Mukund Swami becomes the leader, then weak people feel happy, and good people feel troubled; then how should our presence be considered? Are we considered divine or what are we considered? And yet we are good. Then? That is not a complete defeat. By our presence, divine people should feel delighted; what is the use if we alone feel delighted? By our presence, divine people should feel delighted, dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → should flourish, by our presence. And adharma adharma Unrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline. Tap to open in glossary → should wither away. Only then is one considered a good person. Just withering away or just feeling pleased, does not make one a good person. One whom good people welcome, and weak people reject, that is good. Otherwise, if someone is welcomed by everyone, then weak people will welcome him, weak people will welcome weak people, so because of that, is he considered a good person? He is not considered so because of that. So, fearing and not fearing. Fearlessness and fear, fear-fearlessness. That should be understood. That is what Maharaj meant. Right. It went ahead, if it were ahead, Maharaj that from the path of liberation, what is Maharaj's question in the beginning? In the opening paragraph? “No matter how stubborn one's nature is, Yes. and if we contemplate on one thought, that nature is destroyed; and leaving that thought aside, even if one contemplates on thousands of other thoughts, still that evil nature is not eradicated. What is that thought?” What thought? Right. Nature as an enemy, nature, to whom does one's own nature appear as an enemy? It is mentioned here. If one is attentive. What? In one's path of liberation, if one is trying to walk on the path of one's liberation, then. If one is only trying to nurture one's nature, how would his nature appear as an enemy to him? To nurture one's nature from anywhere, if that is one's only target, how would his nature appear as an enemy to him? So, it means that nature appears as an enemy only to him; if nature appears as an enemy, we should believe that we are trying to walk on the path of God. As long as there is an alliance with nature, and one matches with it, then we have walked that much less on the path of God. There lies the path of the world. The path of the world is to nurture it. If nature is nurtured well, then the path of the world is said to be well-established. When nature is nurtured well, then the path of the world. If there is no friction with nature, then what is the spiritual path? Right? If there is no friction with nature anywhere, then how is that a spiritual path? That, 'Brother, we have become Sadhus, so we are walking on the spiritual path.' No friction with nature at all. Then it is not called spiritual. That is a worldly path. On the worldly path, nature is nurtured. And the more one's nature flourishes, the more progress is said to have been made on the worldly path. Improvement. It is called improvement, right? What is it called? That progress was made. It is called improvement. Improvement of nature occurred. No friction. The spiritual path is where some friction occurs. When Lord Ramchandra and Bharatji met in the forest, Lord Ramchandra said, “Our father cherished his promise.” And his two promises were, one was the throne for Bharat and exile for Ram. “So, I fulfilled one, and you have to fulfill the other.” Bharat said, “It cannot be so.” “That cannot be called dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → .” “In which there is no friction with nature,” “that cannot be called dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → ; what friction do I have in sitting on the throne?” “You fulfilled it, so you are right, you observed dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → .” “But if I sit on the throne, it would be observing adharma adharma Unrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline. Tap to open in glossary → .” “Not observing dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → .” “In observing dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , there must be friction.” “Can there be dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → without friction?” “And if dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → is observed and no friction occurs anywhere,” “then such dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → cannot exist.” “That is an apparent dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → .” “That is not true dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → .” So, if one walks on the spiritual path, then he must experience friction with nature, then his spiritual path is said to be alive. Otherwise, it is called dead. We don't we keep statues of lions? Many times. Haven't we kept them at our gate? Two lion statues like watchdogs. Does anyone fear them? Right? “Oh my god, a lion has come!” What if a real watchdog comes? A real one. If it is a real watchdog, then? Then we fear, even if it is in our courtyard, don't we fear? Where did this come from? It belongs to someone, but what if it bites? And look at that lion, made like a watchdog. That is apparent. Not alive. So, in that way, dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → is alive and apparent. Spirituality is alive and apparent. If spirituality is alive, then it has enmity with nature. That is why Maharaj wrote so in the Vachanamrut. That one who is walking on the path of liberation, and if obstacles are created in his path of liberation, by our natures or those, any other thing, then. He develops enmity with it. He develops enmity with it. But if he himself is walking on the path of liberation, then enmity is developed, otherwise not. The sign of one walking on the path of liberation is, that he does not match with the weak. He does not form an alliance with the weak. What if there is no one? Like that. What if there is no one? Shastriji Maharaj, established this Gurukul, and, Swami had all these troubles, at that time, external people came, and to Swami, they came with a blank paper. “Sign on this.” “You are the head, everything will happen as you say.” “You join us.” “You join us.” So Swami said, “That is not possible.” They said, “Goddess Lakshmi Lakshmi A devi (goddess) who is the wife of Vishnu. She is the devi of wealth. Therefore, money and gold is also called Lakshmi. She eternally remains in the sevã of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → has come to apply the auspicious mark.” Swami said, “I have seen that.” If our own people do not welcome us, it does not mean that we should change sides. It does not mean that. If they don't welcome, it's fine. When family members do not accept him, then those so that is all worldly affairs. But if an alliance is formed with weak people, then it is not called spiritual. He has no spirituality, the sign of walking on the spiritual path. Just because there is no one, should one form an alliance with other weak people? If there is no one. Sometimes I feel that no one supports us. So, should we form an alliance with weak people? So that the other thing continues. It cannot be so. An alliance cannot be formed with weakness, only then is he said to have walked on the spiritual path. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details