The propounded topic: Whose vasana is curbed? Main points: One with mild vairagya should enter the householder ashram ashram 1) Stage of life. There are four ãshrams in total, each with their duties and responsibilities – brahm-chãrya, grahastha, vãnprasth, and sannyãs. 2) Hermitage. Place where tyãgis live. Tap to open in glossary → If one loves an excellent Sant Sant A sãdhu. A tyãgi. In the Vachanãmrut, sant refers to sat- purush. Tap to open in glossary → In this Vachanamrut, Maharaj has asked Shukmuni a question: there are two satsangis, their age is 20 years each. Both have proper conviction, love, bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → Of them, one got married and got a wife due to destiny, while the other did not and remained a sankhyayogi. And he also had the desire to marry, but did not get a wife. That means both did not have intense vairagya. Otherwise, conviction and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → Those two did not have intense vairagya from the beginning, therefore both had a sharp inclination towards sense pleasures. Is that sharpness reduced for the one who became a householder, or for the sankhyayogi? Tell me that. And the Vedas say that, one who has intense vairagya should take sannyas directly from brahmacharya. One who has mild vairagya should enter the householder ashram ashram 1) Stage of life. There are four ãshrams in total, each with their duties and responsibilities – brahm-chãrya, grahastha, vãnprasth, and sannyãs. 2) Hermitage. Place where tyãgis live. Tap to open in glossary → Therefore, answer after thinking. Then, when Swami could not answer, Maharaj answered. Maharaj has also spoken about this in Vachanamrut Gadhada I-14 and Vachanamrut Gadhada II-25. Here, both do not have intense vairagya, they have mild vairagya. Both have intense vasana. So the main question is, whose sharp vasana is curbed? Is vasana curbed by indulgence or by renunciation of indulgence? That is to be considered. So Maharaj said that this one goes into indulgence and the other renounces indulgence, so whose is curbed? It should be curbed for the one who renounces indulgence, right? It is not like that, Maharaj says. Both have intense vasana, so the main question is, whose sharp vasana is curbed? Whose is it? What do you think generally? What has Maharaj thought? Whose is it? Based on what Maharaj said in the Vachanamrut, it is curbed for the one who desires and resolves. The one who makes an effort. He may resolve, but then he has to perform activities accordingly, right? So Maharaj... generally in the Gita, Bhagwan said that if one performs selfless action (nishkam karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → then his vasana is destroyed. Bhagwan said so in the Gita. Yesterday, by his self-surrender. If one performs selfless action, that means in that, Maharaj added this much: he performs selfless action, but performs it to please Bhagwan. He performs selfless action; just doing good, no matter how excellent, selfless action is an extremely excellent action. And it is good, but if he does not set such a purpose to please Bhagwan, then perhaps the sharpness of this world may decrease, but it has no meaning, Maharaj says. It is considered tamasik. So, to please Bhagwan. That means, voluntary or imposed? Action performed with responsibility curbs vasana. Whether he takes it voluntarily or it is imposed. If he performs it with honesty and understanding his responsibility, and to please Bhagwan, then his vasana decreases. In the householder ashram ashram 1) Stage of life. There are four ãshrams in total, each with their duties and responsibilities – brahm-chãrya, grahastha, vãnprasth, and sannyãs. 2) Hermitage. Place where tyãgis live. Tap to open in glossary → If he tries to escape from it, if he tries to escape without taking responsibility for his wife and children, he cannot escape. And in this, it is not like that; in this, if he takes it voluntarily. He takes the responsibility voluntarily. Both must have mumukshuta and the desire to be liberated. That is primary for both. And based on the situation described by Maharaj, one has to understand it from that. If the householder has mumukshuta and the desire to be liberated, then his vasana is curbed. Otherwise, just by entering the householder ashram ashram 1) Stage of life. There are four ãshrams in total, each with their duties and responsibilities – brahm-chãrya, grahastha, vãnprasth, and sannyãs. 2) Hermitage. Place where tyãgis live. Tap to open in glossary → ashram ashram 1) Stage of life. There are four ãshrams in total, each with their duties and responsibilities – brahm-chãrya, grahastha, vãnprasth, and sannyãs. 2) Hermitage. Place where tyãgis live. Tap to open in glossary → In the householder ashram ashram 1) Stage of life. There are four ãshrams in total, each with their duties and responsibilities – brahm-chãrya, grahastha, vãnprasth, and sannyãs. 2) Hermitage. Place where tyãgis live. Tap to open in glossary → ashram ashram 1) Stage of life. There are four ãshrams in total, each with their duties and responsibilities – brahm-chãrya, grahastha, vãnprasth, and sannyãs. 2) Hermitage. Place where tyãgis live. Tap to open in glossary → And there is no fruit of that. And if he has mumukshuta, then his vasana is curbed. Seeing the fruitless activity, his vasana is curbed. Otherwise, actually, if he has accepted responsibility by his own will, wouldn't it decrease? He is a householder, right? It has been imposed on him. And it is a compulsion. So if he fulfills that responsibility out of compulsion, does his vasana, the sharpness, decrease? If there is mumukshuta. If there is mumukshuta, even if there is compulsion, it happens. If he has a desire in his mind that 'I want to go to Bhagwan,' then even if he has to indulge in vasana out of compulsion, he does it quickly. Some do not like that vasana and it has been imposed, and they cannot escape from it, so being troubled by indulgence, they turn back. And their vasana is curbed. The sharpness of their nature decreases. And this one has no compulsion, but he takes it voluntarily, understands the responsibility that 'I should do this, I should please Bhagwan, I should please Him by performing seva. I should please the great devotee of Bhagwan. And I must do it.' If he takes such responsibility, then in pleasing Him, this helps him double. This helps positively, and in the other case, it helps negatively. This helps him positively, that if He is pleased, then it becomes easier for him regarding vasana. That curbing it becomes easier. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. 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