And how are the weak and the strong identified? The answer to that question is: to behave as a devotee of Shri Hari Hari An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra. Tap to open in glossary → Even if one leaves the world, if one can leave the world and worship God, if one can leave the world and worship God, he is called a devotee. Even more than that, if one can make all family limitations somewhat secondary and worship God, he is said to be stronger than him. Even more than that, if one has his own family, and can make them somewhat secondary and worship God, then he is said to be stronger than him. Then the body comes in the way. So, if one can make his own body secondary and worship God, he is said to be stronger than him. Then the senses come. What the senses like, 'I like this and I don't like this, this suits me and this doesn't suit me,' all that happens. So, if one can make that secondary and worship God, he is said to be stronger than him. Then there is one's own intellect, more than that. Yes, sir. Its detail is: some go to foreign lands and cling there, and some cling right here in the home. And some make a decision with their intellect, and only then do they perform the action. And some behave in a state of spiritual authority. And some, by constantly contemplating the ultimate dissolution, know all objects to be perishable and worthless, and by embracing vairagya, develop love for Shri Hari Hari An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra. Tap to open in glossary → They are each stronger than the other. Even if one becomes spiritually authorized and, embracing vairagya, connects with God, they are each stronger than the other. So, all these are forts. They are the forts of the senses and the antahkarana. Some remain bound only to worldly objects. As if they are deeply stuck and trapped in it. Some, even after being free from bodily comforts, cannot worship God. All day long, they only think of the body, 'Come on, let's do this, let's do this, let's do this.' If there is convenience, then if a wealthy person has a lot of convenience, what does he do during the Diwali vacation? Does he say, 'Come on, Diwali vacation is here, so let's do some spiritual practice for five days'? What does he do? He goes traveling. He goes and does the 'spiritual practice' of Singapore. Or he goes and does the 'spiritual practice' of Hong Kong. Or he goes and does some 'spiritual practice' somewhere else. But, can they use their convenience for worship? So, all this means each is stronger than the other. If one can leave all that, then only can one worship God. Otherwise, how can one worship? If one does not get free from the body, even then one cannot worship God. This body does not want to let us be free. So, only if one makes it secondary. Those are all going to remain standing just as they are. Singapore, Hong Kong, Canada, all that is going to remain. Ooty, Kodaikanal, and, Kodaikanal or Kanalkodai? Kodaikanal, all those are going to remain, they are not going to disappear. Don't even we sadhus get ready during vacations, saying, 'We are going to Kodaikanal'? No one goes to Kodaikanal, but they go to Singapore and Hong Kong. So, there is nothing like, 'We have got a vacation, so let's withdraw our mind for five days and worship.' One just needs an opportunity. Straight away we go somewhere. So, householders also do the same, all of them. So now, when will they worship God? They cannot worship God. When there is convenience, all these desires arise. Renunciation happens, but how can a poor person do it? They feel, 'Let's go and visit NTR Garden.' Since we have got this time. So, let's meet there. So, all these are worldly desires. If one leaves worldly desires, then only can one worship God. It is said, 'if one is stronger than that,' right? In this, there is a need for strength. If there is strength in his soul, then he can leave these worldly temptations. Bodily comforts are a temptation. Then the senses, comfort of the senses, or whatever the mind liked, to see that. Nowadays, everyone has become very much like that. So much time is wasted on YouTube, and so much of worship is lost, so they are all slaves of the senses. If one becomes stronger than that, then only can one leave all that. Otherwise, the eyes get drawn, the ears get drawn, the tongue gets drawn. All these are called devotees of the senses. If one leaves that, he is said to be even stronger than him. And it is said about the mind, that about the mind is very beautiful. Often there are beliefs. One cannot get out of them. Vibhishan had such a belief in his mind, that 'I must remain loyal to Ravana.' So, was that belief wrong or right? Was it right or wrong? It was according to Vibhishan. And according to the people also, it was right. Right? Once, Krishnapriya Swami recently spoke about Nishkulanand Swami Nishkulanand Swami Disciple of Sahajanand Swami (Swaminarayan Bhagwan) and author of the Bhaktachintamani, as stated in the scripture's own closing colophon at the end of every chapter. Tap to open in glossary → That Nishkulanand Swami Nishkulanand Swami Disciple of Sahajanand Swami (Swaminarayan Bhagwan) and author of the Bhaktachintamani, as stated in the scripture's own closing colophon at the end of every chapter. Tap to open in glossary → Nishkulanand Swami Nishkulanand Swami Disciple of Sahajanand Swami (Swaminarayan Bhagwan) and author of the Bhaktachintamani, as stated in the scripture's own closing colophon at the end of every chapter. Tap to open in glossary → That, 'Come on, we want to go to Kutch, and if there is any guide like you, let me know.' So Nishkulanand Swami Nishkulanand Swami Disciple of Sahajanand Swami (Swaminarayan Bhagwan) and author of the Bhaktachintamani, as stated in the scripture's own closing colophon at the end of every chapter. Tap to open in glossary → I will go, who else is like me?' Maharaj took him. And then they went to Adhoy, his father-in-law's village, and there he initiated him as a sadhu. And when he initiated him as a sadhu, Lalji Suthar, he was the only son of his parents. His father was not alive. His mother, his wife, and two very small children. One would be five years, four years old, and one would be two years old, such small children. And Lalji Suthar, everyone says, he became a sadhu, and Maharaj himself initiated him, right? So, can it be said that Maharaj acted according to moral codes or not? What can be said of what Maharaj did? This is called the mind. We get stuck in the beliefs of the mind, 'Brother, this should not happen.' Maharaj should not have done that, and everyone would say, the whole world would say so, wouldn't they? Except for Maharaj and except for Nishkulanand Swami Nishkulanand Swami Disciple of Sahajanand Swami (Swaminarayan Bhagwan) and author of the Bhaktachintamani, as stated in the scripture's own closing colophon at the end of every chapter. Tap to open in glossary → That, 'This was not done rightly.' And all the Darbars and others, everyone used to say so. So, what do you call that belief of the mind? Mentality. No, no, mindset. Mindset, yes. All these are mindsets, right? That 'this can happen and this cannot happen, this can happen and this cannot happen.' 'Considering dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → Mindset. Arjuna had made all the arguments in the Gita. Were those arguments reasonable or unreasonable? Reasonable, they were scriptural. They were made according to the scriptures. Even then, did Shri Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → He rejected all of them. Arjuna immediately made the very first argument, 'How, O Madhusudana, shall I fight with arrows in battle against Bhishma and Drona, who are worthy of worship, O slayer of enemies?' 'They are worthy of my worship, how can I shoot arrows at them?' So, Bhagwan did not give any such answer, like, 'Yes, yes, you shouldn't shoot or you should shoot,' nothing like that. But Bhagwan said, 'Fight, do as I say, do as I say,' He kept only one point. Speaking too much causes more trouble. Like, 'Are you telling me to kill Bhishma Pitamah?' And, 'Where am I saying that? I am only saying that you must do it, you should do this,' only that much He said. He said nothing else. So, all these are mindsets. 'This should be done and this should not be done, this should be done and this should not be done.' So, does God know anything or not? Does He have sense or not? And if He says so, then we are the ones who claim to have sense. No one else has it. 'This is done rightly and this is right, Narendra Modi is not doing rightly and all this GST and demonetization, he has made everything so bad.' God has given him sense too, he might make mistakes, he is human so mistakes happen, it's not that they don't. But mistakes are found even in Shri Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → then Maharaj wanted to install this murti murti 1) Sacred idol of Bhagvãn used to offer worship. There are eight types of murtis that can be worshipped: stone, wood, metal, earth, engraved or drawn, sand, gems, and mental. 2) The form of Bhagvãn. Tap to open in glossary → 'And He kept that work for us, and we are doing it easily.' Now, where must His sense have gone, tell me? They believe Him to be supreme, that He knew everything and could do everything, and yet He could not do it. So, all these are mindsets. One's own beliefs. Vibhishan had in his mind, that 'I must remain loyal to Ravana.' I must, remain loyal to Ravana. And if I leave Ravana's loyalty, that is not right. This is called mindset. He is called a devotee of the mind. To him, 'this is right, it is like this and this should be done, this should not be done, he should do this and he should do this.' But no one thinks, 'We should do as God says.' Nor, 'We should do as God's great saint says.' They think we should do as all these people say. So, they are called devotees of the mind. And who is called a devotee of the intellect? 'What I understand is the only truth.' Right? Only if it fits in logic, then it is right. If it does not fit in logic, then? Suppose Maharaj does some work and it does not fit in logic. God did many such works in His incarnations that do not fit in our logic. So, can that be said to be right or not? So, they are called devotees of the intellect. They suppress their own logic. Don't we often talk, when Gyanji Swami was reading the scripture, he said, 'It will remain, it will remain' like that. So, in logic, only that fits, everything. But what if sometimes it does not fit in logic and yet it is God's word? In reality, Arjuna's arguments also had both Arjuna's mindset and other things. His logic was also right. But even if it does not fit in logic, still one must do so. Even if it does not fit in calculations, still one must do so, then he is said to have suppressed his intellect. And then he is said to have become a stronger devotee than him. Not everyone can do that. Only Uddhavji could do that, or some Arjuna could do it, even Yudhishthira could not do it. It did not fit in Yudhishthira's logic, what Shri Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → So, can his logic be said to be right or wrong? So Maharaj, right? Jai Swaminarayan. Yes Swami, Jai Swaminarayan. Now, the incident you are talking about, Yes Swami. so Karna was given the royal throne from the very beginning, and at the end, Kunti Mata told him, 'You are my son,' Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → that 'Until now you did not tell me anything, did not help me, so now how can I betray my friend? How can I be ungrateful?' Yes. So, from the worldly perspective, this seems right to people. Yes, that's right Swami, yes. For people like us, you are saying all this. Yes, true. When he needed it, he lent a hand, made him king, did like this. Yes Swami. So, this also, to me, whether God accepts it or not in the end, those two demons were fighting against Nara and Narayana, and in the end, they went to Nara Narayana, is that story correct? Yes Swami. And Bhishma Pitamah had made a vow, that 'I will remain loyal to the throne of Hastinapur.' Yes Swami. So, if he breaks that vow, it would affect him as a Kshatriya Kshatriya Person of power and courage, traditionally responsible for the formation and enforcement of law within society, as well as its safety. Rulers and warriors of society. The second of the four varnas (castes) of the ancient Indian social system. Tap to open in glossary → Yes Swami. So, stopping all that, to believe in Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → Yes Swami, yes. That is not said to be of the mind. Maharaj, what He spoke about in this, to behave as a devotee with one's senses, body, senses, mind, intellect, they are each stronger than the other. So, all these are subjects of the mind, he had believed in his mind, Karna believed that 'since he helped me in times of need, I must remain on Duryodhana's side.' Bhishma Pitamah had decided in his mind that 'since I have made such a vow, I must not break my vow.' Vibhishan had decided in his mind that 'brother, I must remain loyal to Ravana,' then when Hanumanji explained, he understood. Sometimes Arjuna also had such an initial state, yet by Bhagwan's explanation, he understood, and some might not have understood, so because of that, they were called loyal, and loyalty, Maharaj, dharmanishtha and swarupnishtha, He defined swarupnishtha as only one thing, that one leaves even logic before God, leaves even mindset, leaves everything and keeps only God, so He said that. Even in Maharaj's life stories, many such small incidents often come. Maharaj, when all those sadhus and devotees were performing austerities, they used to go and sit in the Ghela river in winter, so Maharaj said, 'Come on, now your austerity is complete, all of you break your fast.' So, 'No, no Maharaj, we will do so, we will do so that our vow is completed.' So, Maharaj then to that Nanbhakt, Alekh, Alekh Achal, Maharaj gave some reward. So they said, 'We were also doing it, Maharaj.' So Maharaj said, 'Not for that, this is given because he serves the mare, not for that other thing.' So, during Maharaj's time and during incarnations, this keeps happening, sometimes what is set in one's own mind is good. It is according to the scriptures. It is good from the worldly perspective, it is according to the scriptures, but still, when God is before you, He does not look at that. So, all that is completed, yes, it happened like that. So, it appears so from all these scriptural incidents. And only when one accepts what is unacceptable, Maharaj called it loyalty, swarupnishtha, giving Arjuna's example, Maharaj defined swarupnishtha in that way. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details