Then Munibawa asked Brahmanand Swami a question, "We have attained such a connection with the satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → And yet there is a desire for satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → We have attained such a connection with God and satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → And other vices have been eliminated. And there is a desire for satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → Yet pride and jealousy have not been eliminated. So those have been eliminated and these have not, which means that these are stronger than those. Doesn't it mean that? Only if they are stronger than those. Or else there is something more to this. Why do they not get eliminated? Why would they not be eliminated? [inaudible] Do they consider themselves to be somewhat special? But those vices are also... all vices are the same. Why would they not be eliminated? [inaudible] Why this... those... All of these are created by oneself. All of those, lust, anger, etc., are connected with creation. And lust, in particular, is connected with creation. And pride and jealousy cannot be said to be connected with creation. They are self-created. Pride means that one has assumed, "I am worthy of worship." Or does creation assume that he is worthy of worship? One has assumed that, "I am worthy of worship, I am better than others." So one has created pride by oneself. It is not that others create pride; pride is created by oneself. It is not like that with lust, because lust arises from within. From prakriti. To suppress it is the duty of a sadhak. And in this, the sadhak himself creates pride, "I am better than others, I am worthy of worship." "I should be worshipped." And if others are being worshipped, then jealousy. And "I should be worshipped" is pride. When something good happens to someone else, seeing their good fortune, one burns with jealousy. "Such is your impure intent..." Brahmanand Swami has written so in a kirtan kirtan Divine songs about Bhagvãn and His charitras, usually sung to the accompaniment of musical instruments. Tap to open in glossary → "O soul, what will be your fate... Such is your impure intent, O soul, what will be your fate..." Not being able to see others' good fortune is one's own... self-created. [inaudible] The cause of vices like lust and anger? For that, the five sense objects... Maharaj has not stated any cause for lust, anger, etc. What is the cause of grass growing? It just grows. Its cause is said to be the eternal causal body; it is said to be eternal. Enemies like lust are eternal; they are in the form of the causal body. That is why it is said to be eternal. So it is not that there can be a cause for it. They are already present in prakriti; they come automatically. To eliminate them, and they do get eliminated. The causal body is said to be eternal. Eternal means that... There is no logic to it. Eternal means, That there is no cause for it; it is not that it grows only if sown. But this has a cause. Pride and jealousy. One has created it oneself. So that is what it means. Actually, all are considered to be in the causal body, including pride. The five defects that Maharaj spoke of are defects of the causal body itself. But still, Maharaj made two very subtle divisions in that. One likes satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → It is said, "We have attained such a God and we have attained such a satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → We have attained such a God and we have attained such sadhus; he likes them. Satsang Satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → And yet there is a desire. So it becomes a contrary direction. One should not think too deeply about it, but it means, That they become good. If we think more about this, there are good sadhus in our satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → They are considered to be very good sadhus, so the meaning is, That they observe some rules and vows, They are somewhat connected with God, And they do not have excessive lust, anger, etc., Meaning they are devoted to renunciation, detachment, dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → Even in such good persons, jealousy does not go away. At present, gather all the good sadhus and see. Actually, they cannot be gathered, but gather them intellectually. Actually, they do gather sometimes, during festivals they do gather. But gather them all, survey them all in your intellect, as many as are said to be good... not just said to be, but genuinely good. Those who are genuinely good or have a desire for God. If you survey all of them, you will see this. Among them, there will be many in whom lust, anger, etc., have subsided, but very few in whom pride and jealousy have subsided. So this is the classification among those who are good. This is not the classification of those who have not even set out on the path, but of those who have. "Among thousands of men, scarcely one strives for perfection; and of those who strive and succeed..." So this is about those who strive and succeed. Maharaj's point is that pride and jealousy cannot be abandoned. In the Vachanamrut about the elimination of jealousy, Maharaj has said the same thing, hasn't he? Maharaj said that jealousy arises from this, it arises from pride. Or it arises from women, wealth, and good food. For one who does not have those, jealousy arises from pride, so jealousy arises. But, To eliminate jealousy... what means did Maharaj state to eliminate it? It is eliminated for one who wants to eliminate it; it is not eliminated for one who does not want to. For one who does not want to eliminate it at all, even if he performs spiritual endeavors, it is not eliminated. He walks on the path of God and keeps performing spiritual endeavors, observes penance, renunciation, rules, dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → And yet... so Maharaj has said in this that he lacks intellect. Lacking intellect means what? He does not think. He has a desire, but not a deep desire. It is a superficial desire. There is no deep desire; if there were a deep desire, it would be eliminated. Maharaj says that for one who has a desire, his jealousy is indeed eliminated. If there is a need, it is eliminated. [inaudible] And the cause of jealousy is just pride; only pride is left, right? But Maharaj said that the cause of jealousy arising is those as well as this. Other vices have been eliminated, meaning those have been eliminated, but pride has not. And especially, jealousy has not been eliminated. Jealousy is born from pride, so... pride lies hidden. It lies hidden, "I am better than everyone else," and indeed he is good. So that is the big trouble. For a good person to eliminate pride and to eliminate jealousy and envy is a big problem. Who has the greatest chance of jealousy and envy? A good person or a bad person? So he has a greater chance, and that is why they are not eliminated. [inaudible] In this, Maharaj has said that he lacks intellect. Intellect means... Jay Swaminarayan. Come this way, take that. Move the mat this way. That's it. [inaudible] If they are good... so in this, Maharaj has said that even if one is intelligent, he lacks intellect. Lacking intellect means, He does not analyze deeply whether this pride or jealousy is harmful or beneficial to him. He cannot help it, yet he does it. In reality, it is said that there is a desire for satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → So even though Maharaj said there is a desire, pride and jealousy are still not eliminated, which means we must classify it as a superficial desire, not a deep one. It is only to be called good. It is not to go to God. To be called good in society is a motive, isn't it, that everyone calls us good. Wherever we go, we should be counted only among the good, only in the list of the good. We should not be in the list of the bad. This is the extent of the desire. It is not a desire that leads to God. It is not a deep desire. This classification made by Maharaj means that. He is indeed good. He likes God, he likes satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → And there is a desire for satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → And other vices have been eliminated. So it is written like this in Sanskrit. Other vices have been eliminated, meaning lust, greed, and anger have been eliminated. Pride and jealousy have not been eliminated. So pride alone has not been eliminated. And based on that, based on pride, Maharaj said that jealousy, envy, and malice remain based on pride. So two divisions were made. By Maharaj. So one who eliminates pride and jealousy is called brave. Maharaj said that if pride and jealousy are eliminated, then he is called brave. [inaudible] Maharaj said that if the attitude of servitude is developed, then pride is eliminated. If one comes into satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → Then that has to be developed; it does not just come from anywhere. That has to be developed. One has to contemplate that, "I..." as Shastriji Maharaj used to say, "I am incomplete, I am incomplete." One has to adopt such a stance. "I have become perfect"—Maharaj has completely dismissed this in the Vachanamrut. Maharaj has asked Gopalanand Swami a question, the question to the six Sadgurus. Maharaj said that even if yoga is perfected, Still, Pride remains. The sadhu and God become secondary. Yoga is perfected... Maharaj said that yoga is perfected by the grace of the sadhu and God. Yet, when yoga is perfected, the sadhu and God become secondary. And yoga becomes primary, spiritual endeavors become primary, our virtues become primary, our skills become primary over the sadhu. So what is the cause of that? AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details