Vachanamrut contemplation on the two states within each state and the four types of speech. Subject established: Why do two other states exist within each state? Main points: That in which one remains to experience sense objects is called a state. States are created due to the qualities of Sattva and others. Here in the Vachanamrut, Shri Nityanand Swami has asked a question: Why do two other states exist within each state? Before answering that question, Shriji Maharaj first clarified the premise that that in which this jiva remains to experience sense objects is called a state. Before the other two states, what is a state? Maharaj clarified what is called a state. That is not in the question. Nityanand Swami did not ask the question, 'What is called a state?' He asked the question, 'Why do two other states exist within each state?' Therefore, before answering that, Maharaj explained what is called a state. State means position. But saying just that does not give complete knowledge of a state. Position means state or circumstance, but along with that, a curiosity arises: whose position? When we understand its answer, the state will be clarified to some extent. Experience of sense objects means the union of the jivatma and the sense object. But the situation is such that the jivatma is seated deepest inside the body, in the heart. Experience means the perception of happiness and misery. While perceiving happiness and misery, how is that position? How is the position? Maharaj has spoken of three types of happiness and misery. One is happiness and misery in dream, one is happiness and misery in waking, and one is happiness and misery in deep sleep. That means even in deep sleep, one still experiences favorable and unfavorable conditions. Even in dream, there are favorable and unfavorable conditions, and in waking also, favorable and unfavorable conditions. Those are all states. Maharaj says that in which this jiva remains to experience happiness and misery is called a state. That means if one experiences happiness and misery while in waking, it is the waking state; if one experiences happiness and misery in dream, it is the dream state; and if one experiences happiness and misery in deep sleep, it is the deep sleep state. Then, within each, two others exist. Even if one experiences happiness and misery in waking, there is dream in waking and deep sleep in waking. Experience of sense objects means the union of the jivatma and the sense object. But the situation is such that the jivatma is deepest inside the body... The union of the sense object and the jivatma is called happiness and misery in the scriptures. Experience means happiness and misery. If one wants to transcend experience, one must transcend happiness and misery. In the Gita, Bhagwan has said, 'Treating alike pleasure and pain, gain and loss, victory and defeat.' One has to avoid happiness and misery. Then what should be kept in focus? The goal. The goal of pleasing Bhagwan. In pleasing Him, if happiness and misery come, one should not take them into account. Then he is said to have become Brahmarup. And if he counts happiness and misery, he is called a bhogi (pleasure-seeker). He is called a worldly person. Worldly people all experience happiness and misery. They are said to be bound by karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → . Karmas, whatever have been performed, are not going to go away. But to eradicate them, one should not consider their favorability or unfavorability. Not like, 'This is favorable to me, this body is favorable to me, and the body is unfavorable to me.' One must make the body work according to the goal. If the goal is to please Maharaj, one must make the body work for that. Then, whether favorable conditions come or not, it does not matter. After a few days, it automatically becomes favorable. Act accordingly. Still, he is said to have transcended the gunas. Transcended the three bodies and transcended the three states. Transcending the three states is very difficult. Happiness and misery are felt, aren't they? They are felt. But as long as one does not deviate from the goal, even if they are felt, it does not matter. That is... A devotee of Bhagwan has no such guarantee that he will always be happy. A devotee of Bhagwan is always in misery. But why is he in misery? He has to become happy and miserable based on someone else. If Bhagwan gets happiness, 'finding happiness in His happiness and misery in His misery.' He is called a devotee. Finding happiness in one's own happiness and misery in one's own misery is not called a devotee. He is called a kaivalyarthi. That means, in simple language, a selfish person. He is called a worldly person. But 'finding happiness in His happiness' and 'misery in His misery.' The Gopis found 'happiness in His happiness' and 'misery in His misery.' If Shri Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → faced any difficulty, the Gopis became miserable. If they faced any difficulty themselves, the Gopis did not become miserable. Rather, they felt encouraged. 'Never mind, we will overcome this much misery.' They felt encouraged. Just as a warrior feels encouraged upon seeing a battle, similarly, a devotee of Bhagwan, upon seeing his own misery, feels encouraged. 'We will overcome it.' So he does not have that. But he does feel miserable in His misery. He must feel joy from achieving the goal, but that joy should have understanding-based limitations. If there is too much joy, a person may slip up again. There is a rule: 'Drapto kramati'. 'Drapto kramati'. Drapta means excess of joy. When there is excess, kramati means it will certainly violate some boundary. That boundary, meaning if it is within limits, it goes on. Then he does not feel misery. And if he violates the boundary, he is bound to feel misery. Experience of sense objects means the union of the jivatma and the sense object. But the situation is such that the jivatma is seated deepest inside the body, in the heart... meaning the feeling of happiness and misery. The jivatma experiences the feeling of happiness and misery. That is called experience. And the circumstance in which the feeling of happiness and misery occurs is called a state. Someone may be standing and still be miserable, someone may be sitting and still be miserable, and someone may be sleeping and still be miserable; so that is the circumstance. This standing is just the circumstance of the body. But that other circumstance belongs to everyone. They came together collectively. All twenty-four elements came together, and in which circumstance they experience happiness and misery, experience favorability and unfavorability, is called a state. Therefore, it was divided into three parts. Its three: bodily, dream-related, and also in deep sleep. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details