Nand Swami asked, "O Maharaj, what is the nature of irshya?" Then Shriji Maharaj said, "In whose heart there is pride, from that pride irshya arises. And anger, matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → And the nature of irshya is that, even if someone is greater than oneself, when they are honored, one cannot bear to see it. One who has such a nature should be known to have irshya in their heart." Actually, in the scriptures, there are matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → That is, if there is irshya, it is among equals, if one cannot bear to see the honor of someone equal to oneself, that is called irshya. And if one cannot bear to see anyone's honor—equal, younger, or older—it is called matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → But here, the definition Maharaj has given is actually of matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → But since it is not specified, this is called irshya. If both words are used together, like irshya and matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → then such a division must be made. Otherwise, both are acceptable as irshya. Matsar Matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → Asuya means, in reality, if they are equal, it is irshya. And if they are not equal, whether older or younger, anyone, then it is matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → And if they are greater, then it is asuya. If they are greater, then asuya. That is called asuya. One cannot speak out. What is asuya? Attributing faults to their virtues. If one sees faults in their virtues, that is called asuya. And if seeing their virtues or plus points causes internal misery, that is called matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → And if one performs some activities to cause them harm, that is called irshya. If there is a desire in the mind that it would be good if they suffer harm, that is called irshya. And then if one openly performs activities, then it is called droh. Like 'to die or to kill', then it is called enmity. Huh? In matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → One burns within. One has not progressed further yet. And in asuya, because of the burning sensation, in their virtues, for example, if someone is a wealthy person, and is righteous, then one says, "We know how he has acquired his money." "We know how his money came." That is asuya. Huh? That is asuya. In that, for example, if someone is great, "He is great, but I know him." That is asuya. Matsar Matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → Matsar Matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → Huh? So if it is not matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → if one does not have asuya in it, then one only feels, "It is not right that he has this." "It is only right if I have it." And if one's mind becomes sour like that, it is called matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → But, one sets aside one's own feelings and tries to show 'how he is' as inferior in any way. So he will appear inferior only if, one finds some, blame in him. If he has some fame, one tarnishes it. One tarnishes his plus points. Then it is called asuya. If one does not tarnish it, but loses one's own sleep, then it is matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → And if one just wishes that this is not right, or makes some attempts to undermine him, then it is called irshya. First of all is matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → Then asuya. Then irshya. Then droh. And then enmity. Is matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → The very first. That is why Maharaj said that irshya is born from pride. So first of all, there is one's own pride. What is that pride? Huh? A sense of being worthy of worship in oneself. One deems oneself worthy of credit. That if credit is to be given, it should be given to me alone. Whatever credit there is, it should be given to me alone, it should not be given to anyone else. That is pride. So pride. Now, if someone else gets credit in that, then this person immediately feels a burning sensation. If anyone else gets credit or gets some material thing, this person feels a burning sensation. So that is matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → And how to tarnish the credit they received, then that is asuya. Attributing faults to their virtues is asuya. And how to cause them harm, then that is irshya. How to cause them harm, that is called irshya. And causing harm and tarnishing are different from each other. Harm is material, like causing them damage in some way. While the other is just tarnishing, saying 'it is like this, it is like that', in the mind, conceived in one's own mind. Not just conceived in the mind, but causing some physical harm. Then that is called irshya. Is the desire to cause physical harm called irshya, or does one actually do it? One desires it and also performs activities. If one performs activities, then it becomes droh, right? Droh comes after that. Doing it much more openly. Irshya is somewhat hidden. One causes them harm, but cannot do it publicly. And if done publicly, then it is droh. If done publicly, then it is droh. Then when it becomes completely 'to die or to kill', it is enmity. Like 'either him or me'. That is enmity. So then one of them is destroyed. This is its entire series. Yes. Yes. One who is ungrateful, their activity—this activity of irshya and matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → The ungrateful person's activities towards the other are zero. In that, their fault is only that whatever favor the other did, they consume it and then say nothing. It is not about credit. It is not like that. They take the favor for themselves. The meaning of ungrateful has no relation to credit. It is related to help. It is related to help. They do not acknowledge their help. They do not give what they should give. They do not give what they should give. And whereas in matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → Ungratefulness is a defect of desire. This is a defect of pride, this is a defect of pride. Yes, extreme selfishness. It is selfishness, right? Ungratefulness is extreme selfishness. And in pride, selfishness is one thing, but it is more than that. Ungrateful means that if someone has done a favor, one does not acknowledge it at all. In credit, it is such that others get credit, and it is not that it happens only if this person gives it. For example, if you have credit, it does not mean you are credited only if I give you credit. Society gives them credit. And society gives them credit, which this person cannot tolerate, then it is called matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → And this person himself—the other did a favor, and this person should give credit. More than credit, one should show gratitude. Credit is one thing. Just giving credit does not make one grateful. If one does not give credit. Then he becomes ungrateful, but if he gives credit, no, even then he cannot be called grateful. Ungrateful and grateful are two words. Ungrateful and its opposite, grateful. So if one just gives them credit, one is not called grateful, because does just giving credit make one grateful? One should feel gratitude that, 'Brother, one should feel gratitude that, 'No, no, you saved me so much, you did that for me, you did this for me.' And one is ready to help them—even if one cannot do it, but is ready to help them—then one becomes grateful. If one just gives credit, it is called a readiness to become grateful, but it cannot be called that. One should feel gratitude that, 'You have done a great favor to me.' "No, no, welcome," or like, "Thank you." "You did very well, now keep doing this." That can hardly be called grateful. That is called exploitation. So an ungrateful person does not acknowledge them. They do not feel gratitude towards them. Then that is ungrateful. And matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → Matsar Matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → that is why Maharaj said it is born from pride. And in the Vachanamrut on matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → That it is born from pride, good food, and women. So in good food, if this person gets good food and the one sitting next to him does not, then the other feels a bit resentful. "He got it and I did not." Then Chaitanyanand Swami asked, "O Maharaj, what is the nature of irshya?" Then Shriji Maharaj said, "In whose heart there is pride, from that pride irshya arises. And anger, matsar matsar Jealousy of objects. Jealousy that arises in a person when someone else has a better object or item than himself. [Kãriyãni – 6]. Tap to open in glossary → And the nature of irshya is that, even if someone is greater than oneself, when they are honored, one cannot bear to see it. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details