How can one know if someone has an aversion to the five sensory pleasures? In this, Maharaj has mentioned only one thing, but how can one know if someone has an aversion to the five sensory pleasures and a lack of body-consciousness? That should be there because it follows next, doesn't it? How can one know if someone has an aversion to the five sensory pleasures? Then Shriji Maharaj said, "One who has..." First, read that. "One who has an aversion to sensory pleasures is known in this way: when some good food is offered, he eats it, but he does not experience the same joy as he does when eating ordinary food; he feels uneasy. And if he is happy wearing ordinary, coarse clothes, he does not feel happy if he has to wear fine clothes, and his mind feels uneasy." "Similarly, if there is a good bed, or if someone offers respect, or whatever other good things come his way, his mind feels uneasy in them, and he does not find joy in them in any way. Then we should know that he has an aversion to sensory pleasures." His focus is only on bodily sustenance or maintenance, but in that... he finds joy in that. Bodily sustenance to what extent? Minimum bodily sustenance, not just bodily sustenance. How to achieve minimum bodily sustenance? And if his focus is on that, then it means he has an aversion to the five sensory pleasures. But what is the opposite of minimum bodily sustenance? A special offer, a preference for things to be exactly this way or that way. Then he cannot be said to have an aversion, he cannot be said to have an aversion. This is the definition. We have developed an aversion to the five sensory pleasures. How many special offers of the five sensory pleasures do we have in our minds? Like, "My food must be like this, I will need a bed like this, I will need a seat like this." The more such special offers arise, the more attachment there is. And bodily maintenance is just the arrangement of the satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → ; there is no problem with that at all. In that, the satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → has already made arrangements. If everyone's clothes are torn, give them new ones, if they need a blanket, give it to them, feed everyone in the afternoon. But not that, I will go a bit further back. That is why Maharaj insisted on the common dining line, right? Because eating in the common dining line is called bodily maintenance. And general arrangements are all called bodily maintenance. General arrangements are made precisely so that bodily maintenance can take place. But bypassing that general arrangement, if a person tries to make his own special arrangement—sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't—even then, it is called attachment. Not everyone has the scope for a special offer... Not everyone has the scope for a special offer. There is an insistence. There may not be scope, but there is insistence. Take ordinary people, for example, among them is an ordinary Sadhu. He would still insist on avoiding the common dining line, wouldn't he? Even if things don't go exactly as he wishes, he still wants to avoid the common dining line, like making some excuse to leave and then going when everyone else has left and only one or two people remain. There is such an insistence. So, whether things go as wished or not is a different matter, but internally there is such an inclination. There is also an inclination to join the common dining line at any cost, somehow or other, by hook or by crook. But there is also an inclination to avoid the common dining line at any cost. The inclination to avoid it at any cost is attachment. And to join it at any cost is bodily sustenance; it is called bodily sustenance, what else. Similarly, all general arrangements, for example, Aarati, chanting, prayers, and worship, when they are done generally, if we participate in them, staying in that atmosphere and area, then that is called bodily sustenance or rhythm. And if we do something special, like doubling it, then that is called self-will. So, just as there is attachment to the five sensory pleasures, there is also attachment to actions. We perform those actions in that way. The general arrangement—well, the current arrangement changes from time to time—but when we break the general arrangements established by Maharaj, that is the result of our attachment. This singing of praises, prayers, morning worship, eating, waking up, mental worship—all of these are general arrangements. If they are done very easily as prescribed by Maharaj, then it is said to be less attachment. "His focus is only on bodily sustenance or maintenance, but when more than that comes his way, he feels uneasy; when he has an aversion to it, then we should know he has an aversion." The meaning of his uneasiness is that he thinks about how to safely escape from this. If he thinks about how to safely escape, then he has an aversion to the five sensory pleasures. One who finds pleasure in indulging in them or having others indulge in them, and "good" means good sensory pleasures, not doing good work. If he finds pleasure in them, then he does not have an aversion to the five sensory pleasures. The other one feels uneasy in good things, as Maharaj said, right? If he feels uneasy in good things, then he has an aversion to the five sensory pleasures. In doing good... "good" here means self-willed, meaning one who takes pleasure in doing what is self-willed does not have an aversion. Even if, as written in the talks of Gunatitanand Swami, he eats a handful of soaked millet but eats it sitting in a corner, he still has a taste for it. Even if everyone else ate urad dal laddoos in the common dining line, but this one comes alone and eats millet and does not join everyone else, he still has a taste for it, as the great saints have said. If he joins the common dining line and eats whatever is served according to Maharaj's wish, then he has no taste for it; that is maintenance. So, if too much is served, he takes less. If he feels that it is too much, he takes less. If he conforms well to the general arrangements of the satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → , but when he gets good sensory pleasures, his mind does not feel uneasy, then it is said to be less. The aversion to the five sensory pleasures is less. Even while remaining within dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , one can become sensual. Do you understand? So, he enjoys sensory pleasures while remaining within Maharaj's commands. If he enjoys sensory pleasures, he is called sensual. Mukta Mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → , mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → , sensual, and pamar. Who is called pamar? One who transgresses the boundaries of the scriptures. He cannot maintain boundaries, and discarding boundaries, he runs after pleasures; he is called pamar. Even if he remains within boundaries, he still becomes sensual. And who is called mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → ? One who, even while remaining within boundaries, tries to save himself from the sensory pleasures that come his way, tries to free himself from them; he is called mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → . For example, if there is a householder, and good fortune is written in his destiny, and he is a wealthy householder, and he enjoys that happiness, is he committing a sin? If he earns righteously and enjoys happiness, he is not committing a sin. Because he does not commit sins, he is not pamar, but he does not cease to be sensual. Because he enjoys them, he is indeed sensual. He likes the five sensory pleasures, so he is called sensual. If he desires to be free from them, he is called mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → . And if he succeeds in freeing himself, he is called mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → . Then he is called mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → , so four stages are mentioned, right? So, suppose there is an arrangement of the five sensory pleasures—nowadays, all arrangements are luxurious. But to save oneself from luxurious arrangements is the duty of a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → . And yet, to save oneself while remaining within rules. Even while remaining within the arrangements of the satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → , to save oneself, meaning he joins the common dining line, finds his sustenance from it, and saves himself from excellent sensory pleasures, then that is called his mumukshuta. So, all this is a bit difficult. Shastriji Maharaj used to say, when I was studying in Vadtal, some saints—there must have been a custom then—would bring rotis, but others would have millet rotlas in the common dining line. So someone would say, "Here, Dharamjidas, I have brought extra, here, you take it." Then I would say, "It gives me cold glands, it affects me." "It gives me cold glands, it affects me," meaning saving oneself. 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