So, so, great saints and scriptures have not given much importance to capability. Someone may have a lot of power, someone may have extraordinary skills, so that has not been given much importance. Whatever you have, even if you use that 100% for Maharaj, then that is enough, then there is no need for capability like that of Jaya and Vijaya. It only depends on what percentage you use. Brother, we were having a discussion with Swamiji, with Satsang Satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → He said very nicely, the topic of genius has come up among us, right? Who should be called a genius? So he said very nicely, that he mentioned five steps. A beginner, learner, and consumer, that is one stage. Then practitioner and performer, that is the second stage. And third, master and expert, that is the third stage, fourth is genius, like that. Nayan Bhagat was there, we can call him a genius. Why genius? Because one who does extraordinary work in his domain, that is, in his line, is called a genius. Gandhiji did extraordinary work in that line, that he uprooted such a big empire, so he is called a genius. Anyone in their own line. Chanakya was there, he established all new things in politics, in statecraft. So he is called a genius, in his line. So why is Nayan Bhagat called a genius, tell me? Even if a person spends his whole life in meditation, bhajan bhajan Worship. Tap to open in glossary → So his technique was different, the technique of making tea was different, he used it in such a way that he became liberated by making tea, by serving tea. We are supposed to make devotees give up tea, even so, and yet he became liberated by serving it. Nayan Bhagat's state in the end was almost liberated, he had become like a liberated soul. And did Kothari Swami have any other special, extraordinary skill that could be written in the Guinness Book? He did not have a skill that could be written in the Guinness Book. But he obtained liberation from that skill. Even if his skill was rough, he obtained liberation from it. So that is called his genius. That in such a short time, no one can achieve that by doing so. What he achieved in the end, no one can achieve. So that is called his genius. So a person who is a genius, how he does his work in a short time, that is called a genius. What is our question? There is no need for capability. There is not much need for capability. Nayan Bhagat cannot be considered to have such capability. Kothari Swami's life was also ordinary. But their state at the end of life was the result of genius. The desirelessness, liberated state, love for Maharaj at the end of life, was the result of genius spiritual endeavor. Otherwise, can an ordinary person imagine that someone serving like Nayan Bhagat would become liberated in the final state of life? Others might be doing very important service, so is the service important, or is there genius in the service, or what is it, in what does it lie? In their technique and devotion, they are constantly focused, and they will have only one tune, to please Shastriji Maharaj or to please Maharaj, and on one thing. A person may practice a thousand kinds of things, instead of that, if he does only one practice a thousand times, the whole world will tremble because of it. He does a thousand practices on just one thing. And someone may be a master in a thousand subjects, in a thousand subjects, and delivers a thousand discourses, that, "Come on, you deliver a thousand discourses." And finds a thousand subjects and delivers a thousand discourses. So, rather than practicing a thousand kinds of things, having a thousand kinds of skills, if one has made a thousand attempts on one skill, then he becomes a genius. So Nayan Bhagat had made a thousand attempts on just one practice, not even a thousand, but more. And that too in the proper line. In the line of pleasing Maharaj. Kothari Swami in the line of pleasing Maharaj. When practiced, a genius result came. Its result comes out as genius. But to maintain the same devotion is very difficult. Gunatitanand Swami said, that to remain in one state of conduct is superior to nirvikalpa samadhi. So that is genius. That today we have come and have the zeal to please God, and when we compare that with the last breath and these two, then we know. How it is at the time of the last breath and how it is now, it should keep increasing. So in that, it became genius, the result comes out as genius, a genius does not have horns on his head, or a lotus has not grown. It brings a genius result. So there is not much need for capability. His devotion changes, so he goes to the abode of God, whatever has been done here, all of it comes along. Maharaj has said in the 71st Vachanamrut of Gadhada I, that if a papaya has been offered to God here, then he gets a papaya there, he said so. Maharaj has said so. That whatever things are offered to God here, he gets them after going to the abode, Maharaj wrote such words. How Maharaj makes it available, we do not know much, but Mahapurushdas Swami had shown that. In Jamnagar, like, "Come on, this is offered here," so they sent someone there by samadhi, "Go and see what Maharaj is doing there, go." So Maharaj was doing this only, that that devotee had offered a papaya and Maharaj was offering it. And that devotee was sweeping the temple here. It was shown like that. So if it is done with devotion, with pure devotion, with 100% devotion, then it goes directly there. And even if heaps are made without devotion, it does not happen. It does not go there. So the physical body here remains behind, the subtle body also remains at the boundary of this universe. And the causal body changes. And the causal body does not change after going there, the causal body changes right here, only then do those two get released here, otherwise they do not get released. So it is the devotion of the causal body, if that devotion changes, then it is called a transforming life. Transformer of life, transforming life means transforming devotion. His devotion keeps changing and keeps increasing, then Maharaj says he does not need to practice ashtanga yoga. The Gopis did not practice ashtanga yoga. And Nayan Bhagat did not become a Shastri, Acharya, or Purani. Kothari Swami also did not become one. Yet, the state Kothari Swami attained, the Puranis and others have to look back and think, "Will ours be like that or not?" He himself has doubt, so how would others not have it? That, "So will ours be like that or not?" Because he, has attempted a lakh times on just one point. That, "We want to go to the abode, we want to go, and we want to go by serving tea." Now, how to serve it, that is to be seen. And he, by serving, that, "We want to do this." So he had transformed the entire devotion. And if it is transformed, then it comes. Nothing of the causal body remains behind here. The causal body comes along there as it is. So, of course, if it has desires of this world, then it would not go there at all. So if it has completely changed, and while being here, alive, it has become such that it functions there as well, then it goes there. And these two bodies remain behind here. The causal body does not remain behind. But the causal body and the divine body, the difference is only that from the causal body, the divine body is transformed, transforming takes place. The desire here changes and becomes related to God. So the causal body comes along, and the causal body has to be developed right here. All these activities, the procedure of satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → to change the causal body. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details