If one has attained realization, meaning if one has a firm conviction and a clear understanding of God. Maharaj has defined attainment as understanding. Mostly, Maharaj has said that if one attains something, it means they have recognized it, right? If there is no recognition, and one is wandering with Maharaj, then what is that attainment? That is not called attainment. And if one has not met Maharaj, and has not had darshan darshan Seeing. To see with admiration and devotion. To see Bhagvãn, a sat-purush, and murtis, with inner or outer vision, with the intention of receiving their grace and blessings. By doing darshan properly a bhakta develops affection for Bhagvãn, and Bhagvãn develops affection for that bhakta. [Sãrangpur – 2]. Tap to open in glossary → And if one has recognized Maharaj, Balmukund Swami, Mahapurushdas Swami, Yogeshwar Swami, all of them were like the Nand Saints. They came after the line of Nand Saints, but they were like Nand Saints. Narayan Das Swami's life was also like that. Also in other places, in Moli, there was Hari Hari An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra. Tap to open in glossary → Hari Hari An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in His four-armed svarup to save an elephant from being killed by a crocodile. He cut off the crocodile’s head with His chakra. Tap to open in glossary → All those saints were in Bhuj. All those saints were of the later generation. Achutdas Swami and all. Achutdas Swami was there. So all those saints were such that they were with the Nand Saints. They were standing with them. Now, how should we understand direct realization? Maharaj had said that state was his. Maharaj says that if one attains a state, if one directly meets, then such a state is achieved. So the state was there, but direct realization did not happen. So the true characteristic of direct realization is that this state is achieved. So those saints had already attained such a state. Because it happened due to his desire. Recognition of attainment, recognition of Maharaj. They recognized Maharaj as he is, so automatically they attained his state. That is attainment. So direct realization is in the sense of recognition. Mostly it is. Here too, it is the same. If one truly recognizes Maharaj, then one attains such a state. One naturally abides in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → And one's own soul is seen as Brahman. And by renouncing adharma adharma Unrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline. Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → One abides in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → Detachment. This detachment. Detachment from all material things. One is not bound by any action or karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → Such. As God said in the Gita. Namam karmani limpanti name karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → Itimam yobhi janati, this happens to him. That namam karmani limpanti, name karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → Namah karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → He does not have attachment, so karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → And not having attachment is a sign of attainment. Not having attachment to worldly objects is a sign of his attainment. God said, 'Itimam yobhi janati,' meaning recognition. This is about recognition. Itimam yobhi janati. Karmabhir sa na badhyate. If he recognizes me in such a way, then he also attains such a state. If one recognizes God, then one attains this state. If one truly recognizes, then one attains this state. One's soul is seen as Brahman, and one has attachment to the five senses. Yes. There is a flaw in conviction. There is a flaw in recognition. There is a flaw in recognition. So there is a flaw in conviction. First, recognition happens, then conviction happens. So it is called a flaw in recognition. Similarly, devotees of God also become free from time, karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → And remains in the continuous service of God. If he is doing it and doing it correctly. If he is making full effort, meaning putting in all his strength. If he is putting in his full effort and striving. Even then, he feels that his soul is attached to Maharaj, not to this. He naturally experiences such a realization. Attainment happens. The state is achieved. In that way. If one has recognized Maharaj. And if one has not recognized Maharaj in that way, then one feels that one's soul is attached to this. When does that person realize? When it's time to let go. One realizes when it's time to let go. That his soul is attached to this. One doesn't know without death whether one's soul is attached to that machine or not. Where is our soul attached? Is it attached to money, to children, to family, or to this business? One doesn't know that before death. One realizes when death comes. If one thinks beforehand, 'What will attach to me?' Then he will know. If he thinks, he will know again. If I have to leave this, then what will cling to me from this? Then he will know again. Nothing attaches to him, his state has been achieved, he has recognized God. So nothing attaches to him from this. Similarly, devotees of God also. Become free from time, karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → And remains in the continuous service of God. Such attainment occurs after leaving the body. That is the answer to that question. What kind of attainment occurs after leaving the body? One remains eternally in the service of God. That was mentioned again. Similarly, devotees of God also become free from time, karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → That attainment happens here while living, such a state is achieved while living. And one remains in the continuous service of God, such attainment occurs after leaving the body. That is the answer to that question. Thus, the word. So both of them are considered after leaving the body and also here. Similarly, devotees of God also become free from time, karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → Such attainment occurs after leaving the body, that is the answer to that question. Thus, Vachanamrutam, in this way, the 66th Vachanamrutam of Gadhada Madhya Prakaran was completed. Then Shriji Maharaj asked Shukmuni, "If a devotee of God has realized God and God's saint, what does he attain while living, and what does he attain after death?" Shukmuni said, "Maharaj, the answer to that will be given when you provide it." Then Shriji Maharaj said, "One who has attained God and God's saint, and has realized them." It is written that he lives. Then Shriji Maharaj said, "One who has attained God and God's saint, and has realized them, spends their days and nights while living, engaged in God's katha and kirtan kirtan Divine songs about Bhagvãn and His charitras, usually sung to the accompaniment of musical instruments. Tap to open in glossary → The jivatma, which is beyond the three states, directly experiences the vision of Brahman. Detachment arises towards all other objects except God. So if he has recognized, he cannot live without katha and kirtan kirtan Divine songs about Bhagvãn and His charitras, usually sung to the accompaniment of musical instruments. Tap to open in glossary → And one's own soul is seen as Brahman. And one naturally abides in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → And detachment arises towards all other objects except God. By renouncing adharma adharma Unrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline. Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → After leaving the body, God makes him like Himself. So it means that by renouncing one's nature, one can live in what Maharaj likes. By renouncing adharma adharma Unrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline. Tap to open in glossary → He fully recognized. What did Maharaj say is the characteristic of complete recognition in one place? That no matter what kind of nature one has, if it is ingrained in the soul, then one gives it up. If one has truly recognized. And if one likes God, one does so. Then he recognized God. Such a state is achieved. We act by abandoning our nature. Then Shriji Maharaj said, "One who has attained God and God's saint, and has realized them, spends their days and nights while living, engaged in God's katha and kirtan kirtan Divine songs about Bhagvãn and His charitras, usually sung to the accompaniment of musical instruments. Tap to open in glossary → The jivatma, which is beyond the three states, directly experiences the vision of Brahman. Detachment arises towards all other objects except God. By renouncing adharma adharma Unrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline. Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → After leaving the body, God makes him like Himself. That devotee becomes free from time, karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → And remains in the continuous service of God. Such attainment occurs after leaving the body. Here a question arises: we are all devotees of God, and we believe that Maharaj and the saints have directly met us, and we should believe that. But why is the change in life shown in the Vachanamrut not visible in our lives? Have you attained direct realization or not? Huh? To Sadgun Swami. Have you attained direct realization of Maharaj or not? Or not? Or has it? To Jai Swami. So Maharaj said that if one has attained direct realization, then this should happen. This, these two, a state and attainment, both should be balanced in that one. If we believe that such attainment has occurred, then such a state should be achieved. He mentioned four things. That without listening, contemplating, meditating, and serving God's katha and kirtan kirtan Divine songs about Bhagvãn and His charitras, usually sung to the accompaniment of musical instruments. Tap to open in glossary → One cannot live without it. And it is written in Gunatitanand Swami's talks that one is either connected to a sadhu or to God. So what is the characteristic of one who is connected to God? Signs, character, and actions. Without signs, character, and actions, one cannot live. And if one is connected to a sadhu. Darshan Darshan Seeing. To see with admiration and devotion. To see Bhagvãn, a sat-purush, and murtis, with inner or outer vision, with the intention of receiving their grace and blessings. By doing darshan properly a bhakta develops affection for Bhagvãn, and Bhagvãn develops affection for that bhakta. [Sãrangpur – 2]. Tap to open in glossary → darshan darshan Seeing. To see with admiration and devotion. To see Bhagvãn, a sat-purush, and murtis, with inner or outer vision, with the intention of receiving their grace and blessings. By doing darshan properly a bhakta develops affection for Bhagvãn, and Bhagvãn develops affection for that bhakta. [Sãrangpur – 2]. Tap to open in glossary → He cannot live without it. Then it connected. So if one has recognized God, this should happen. If one has recognized a sadhu, then that should happen. He said both. It is said here for both, the sadhu and God, and the attainment of the sadhu. So Maharaj combined both. One cannot live without doing katha and varta. One cannot live without listening, contemplating, meditating, and performing the nine types of devotion. One cannot live without serving God and doing all other things. Then he, that is one, and the second. Of one's own soul, of one's own soul. One sees one's soul as separate from the family. How does the family relationship break? Maharaj said that. When one considers oneself as the soul. When one considers oneself as the soul, Maharaj says that all that we have heard about the 'khapo' (a type of spiritual experience) comes to mind. If you don't hear it, then say so. When does the relationship with relatives break? Maharaj says that one considers oneself as Brahman. Considers oneself separate from it. Considers oneself separate from one's relatives. Then he experiences the vision of his own soul as Brahman. Such a distinct vision should occur. If one has attained God, then one should separate from there. Otherwise, it won't happen. Don't assume that just because you don't hear it, it has separated. Maharaj says that even after 40 years, this cactus tree can take root anywhere. So if there is a connection, it immediately attaches. So if there is a connection and it still doesn't attach, then it's the vision of one's own soul. It is said to be separate. Here a question arises: we are all devotees of God, and we believe that Maharaj and the saints have directly met us, and we should believe that. We will set aside the current discussion. However, even during the time of Maharaj and the Nand Saints, there were many individuals whose lives did not truly reflect the changes mentioned in this Vachanamrut. Nothing came. Even when they lived with Maharaj. So he attained direct realization of Maharaj. It is not said to have happened. So the combined meaning of both is that if one recognizes, then it happens. Recognition is attainment. Recognition then, those who did not meet Maharaj directly, and the later saints recognized Maharaj, so they attained such a state. And they had not met Maharaj directly. So what is the meaning of direct realization? What is the meaning of direct realization? That he has truly recognized them. What is Maharaj like? And what kind of saints of Maharaj are they, if one has truly recognized them. Then he attains such a state. There was no recognition, so even though they were together, such a state was not achieved. And if such a state occurs, then it is said to be truly recognized. This is a sign of recognition. The result of recognition should be like this. The result of recognition: if recognition happens and the result does not come, then it is not recognition. We will set aside the current discussion, but even during the time of Maharaj and the Nand Saints. There were many individuals whose lives did not truly reflect the changes mentioned in this Vachanamrut. So, did they not attain direct realization of God and the saint? Thirdly, after Maharaj disappeared from the earth and the line of Nand Saints went to Akshardham, there were many great saints in the history of the Sampraday. In whose lives all the changes mentioned in this Vachanamrut were visible. Then how should we consider the direct realization of God and the saint? He didn't have it. He had not attained it. The solution to that is that mere physical meeting or presence is not called attainment. In the spiritual path, true recognition is called true attainment. It's not that only contemporary presence is attainment. Even if it's from a different time, if there's recognition, then it's attainment. He has direct realization. In the spiritual path, true recognition is called true attainment. The fruit mentioned in the Vachanamrut is attained only then. If one has met physically but does not recognize who Shriji Maharaj is or what he is, then even if one has attained, it must be considered that one has not attained. That is why even during the time of avatars and among humans who lived with God, the full benefit of salvation was not received. Vyasa himself wrote that 'Durbhago bata lokoyam yad vastu nitaram api'. And Maharaj, the Yadavas were constantly unfortunate. Durbhago bata lokoyam. When God came to earth, they did not recognize him. So that is misfortune. And the Yadavas were constantly unfortunate. What to do? Even though they lived together, they did not recognize him. Even though he was his own father. He could not recognize who this is. So that is called constant misfortune. So if there is no recognition, then the state of misfortune is attained. Vyasa himself wrote that 'Durbhago bata lokoyam yad vastu nitaram api'. And it must have happened to many individuals during Maharaj's time as well. On the other hand, after Maharaj and the saints of the Nand lineage, great saints emerged. Who perhaps did not even have darshan darshan Seeing. To see with admiration and devotion. To see Bhagvãn, a sat-purush, and murtis, with inner or outer vision, with the intention of receiving their grace and blessings. By doing darshan properly a bhakta develops affection for Bhagvãn, and Bhagvãn develops affection for that bhakta. [Sãrangpur – 2]. Tap to open in glossary → Yet, the characteristics of direct realization are clearly visible in their lives. This means that direct realization of God depends on their true recognition. Not on physical meeting. When one truly recognizes the Supreme Soul and truly recognizes God's saint—who he is and what his glory is—then the changes in the form of the signs of attainment mentioned in the Vachanamrut definitely become visible in one's life. Therefore, the realization of his glory is direct realization; even after leaving the body, he alone attains it. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details