There is a difference between divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → and nitya, what do you say? Ghanshyambhai, you tell. What is called divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → ? What is called nitya? While performing upasana of Bhagwan, the maik indriyas indriyas A sense, through which a person can ‘know’ and ‘perform actions’. There are ten indriyas in total - the five gnãn- indriyas (cognitive senses) and the five karma-indriyas (conative senses), with the mind often taken to be the eleventh indriya. They engage themselves in their respective vishays and have the complete knowledge of that vishay. The sense organs are not to be confused with the indriyas (the senses). The sense organs are part of the physical body, whereas the indriyas (senses) are distinct from the physical body. five gnãn-indriyas: hearing (ears/shrotra), touch (skin/tvak), sight (eyes/chakshu), taste (tongue/rasnã) and smell (grahn) five karma-indriyas: speech (voice/vãk), handling (hands/pãni), walking (feet/pãd), excretion (anus/pãyu) and procreation (genitals/upastha) Tap to open in glossary → attain the divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → bhava, meaning one can specially recognize Bhagwan. The difference between divyata and nityata, I am telling you. What did you understand? Bhagwan's sambandh, Kanji Bhagat, tell. If it is maik, if it is divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → , then it never perishes. Only divyata remains, but there is no maik bhava in it. If it is nitya, then it can perhaps be maik. So what is the difference between the two? I didn't get it. Come on, Doctor sir, tell. All you doctors, analyze it by putting your stethoscope. Tell, that which is divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → has a sambandh with Bhagwan. And that which is nitya, for example, Ashwatthama is chiranjivi, so he is nitya. But he may or may not have a sambandh with Bhagwan. He is permanent, but not divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . Nitya means that time cannot destroy it. And divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → means sambandh with Bhagwan. Our jiva is nitya, it is not divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → , it has to be made divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . If we establish a sambandh with Bhagwan, then our jiva becomes divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → and also nitya. So, that which is nitya, time cannot destroy it. So the question here is that Maharaj did not say, he did not raise a doubt, "Why do you call Vrindavan and Kashi divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → ?" He did not say that. What question has been asked? How do you call it nitya? If you call it divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → , we won't object much, because we believe that Vrindavan has a sambandh with Bhagwan, so it can be divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . But you have forcefully made divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → into nitya, so that doesn't fit well with us. Who decides what is nitya? The shastras decide, and the four types of pralaya decide. If something passes through the four types of pralaya and nothing can destroy it, then it is called nitya. And many times, something can be nitya but not divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . So which is important? Should we try to become nitya or try to become divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → ? If you don't become nitya, it's fine, but you must become divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . If a sambandh with Bhagwan is established, then it becomes divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . Then, even if it is maik, it becomes divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . If it is maik, let time destroy it, but if it goes to Bhagwan, then it is said to have become divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . So, the sambandh with Bhagwan, the sambandh with divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → things, makes a person divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . And if time cannot touch it, then it is called nitya. So Maharaj's question is about Vrindavan and Kashi. So what do we take it for ourselves? If we claim that Vadtal or Gadhada are not destroyed, then that would be our foolishness. What Maharaj said to others, that applies to us. But it doesn't mean that by refuting nityata, divyata is also refuted. Nityata has been refuted, divyata has not been refuted. So, Maharaj, we have no objection in calling Maharaj's birthplace or all such places divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . And to make something divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → , to attain divyata, one only needs to establish a sambandh with Bhagwan, or if one establishes a sambandh with the Mahapurushas who have become divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → , then one also becomes divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → . So, becoming divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → is easy. And becoming nitya, no matter how many efforts we make, it won't happen. We won't become divya divya Divine. Tap to open in glossary → or nitya just by making efforts. No karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → can break the sambandh with Bhagwan. 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