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The meaning of being great is that an Ekantik Sant (saint) dedicated to God's mission, understanding the purpose of Maharaj's incarnation, takes the flaws of a saint dedicated to it, then that person, while doing good deeds, keeps diminishing and eventually reaches the brink of destruction.

Did Duryodhana, Karna, Ravana, Jarasandha, etc., do any good deeds or not?

Did he have that good activity or not?

Did Karna do any good deeds?

Huh?

How generous?

Did Jarasandha do any good deeds?

Or not?

Did he do good deeds or not?

Brahmin.

He was considered a Brahmin.

He was considered a Brahmin.

If someone went to his court and asked for something, especially a Brahmin, he would give it.

So he was considered a knower of Brahman.

Karna was a generous person in that way.

So why did they diminish?

All these people kept diminishing while doing good deeds. They did good deeds and diminished.

Why take Krishna's flaws?

Nothing else.

He does good deeds.

But this is a flaw.

In life, one may not have been able to cultivate good qualities so much, but if one develops great virtues from such a saint as described above, then by remaining in satsang, one progresses greatly.

What good deeds did Arjuna do?

He did as Krishna said.

There was no one as generous as him, nor was there any Brahmin like him.

Normal activity.

It's not like he was very weak.

But normal activity.

In life, one may not have been able to cultivate good qualities so much, but if one develops great virtues from such a saint as described above, then by remaining in satsang, one progresses greatly.

Three types of people.

Speak, read if you want to read.

Propounded subject.

What is the reason for increasing and decreasing in Satsang?

Main points.

The one who takes the virtues of a Sadhu, increases day by day.

The one who takes the flaws of a Sadhu, diminishes day by day.

Which Sadhu's?

Of a great Sadhu.

Of a great Sadhu.

They should be older in age.

This Vachanamrut is about the reasons for increasing and decreasing in Satsang.

Maharaj has explained in this Vachanamrut who progresses and who declines on the path of salvation.

Shriji Maharaj inspired someone to ask a question.

The Vachanamrut is small but very good.

The whole life is about increasing and decreasing. It's a small Vachanamrut.

Shriji Maharaj inspired someone to ask a question. Then Muktanand Swami asked, 'Some people, by staying in Satsang, keep progressing day by day, while others, by staying in Satsang, keep diminishing day by day. What is the reason for this?'

Then Shriji Maharaj said, 'The one who takes the flaws of a great Sadhu, diminishes.'

And the one who takes the virtues of that Sadhu, his body keeps growing.

Therefore, one should not take the flaws of a Sadhu, but only their virtues. One should only take flaws when someone breaks one of the five vows established by God, but if there is no change in the vows and their natural disposition is not good, one should not take their flaws by observing that.

Some people have a habit of talking a lot.

Some people don't have a habit of talking.

Some people have a habit of running like Brahma Swami.

They break everything.

So that is natural behavior. One should not take the flaws of natural behavior.

If one breaks the current, then take the flaw.

Avoid natural tendencies.

First, recognize our nature and then change it.

Sadguru Gunatitanand Swami says that virtue, humility, and service are the three ways to grow, while stubbornness, pride, and jealousy are the ways to diminish.

What does that mean? Tell me.

Explain both.

Virtue, humility, and service.

Those are ways to increase.

Stubbornness, pride, and jealousy.

What are the ways to increase?

Eat a lot and what else?

Eh?

What do you say a lot?

What do you say a lot?

I'm just asking you to repeat what was said here. I'm asking you to repeat what was said here.

What did it say here?

Increasing virtue.

Virtue.

Eh?

What did you say?

Virtue, humility, and service.

Eh?

I'm asking you to repeat it.

Virtue, humility, and service, that is...

Ways to increase, ways to increase.

So, we talked about it earlier.

If one has virtues, performs service, and does satsang, yet still diminishes, then where is the way to increase? What are you saying? So, the way to increase is there. Maharaj said in the Vachanamrut that the meaning is that if one performs service, does satsang, and learns virtues, yet still diminishes, and Gunatitanand Swami said that these three are ways to increase, then what should one understand?

Eh?

If he keeps company with great saints, he will grow.

With a great saint.

Let Swami say that he has virtue, humility, and service. Let Swami say it.

If one does all this without taking on flaws, then one progresses.

Flaw.

If he doesn't take it.

Eh?

Let's add that he doesn't take flaws.

And yet it decreases.

What?

What did you say?

He kept it with others, not with him.

Eh?

Where it should be taken, it is not taken.

And where it should not be taken, if one keeps taking virtues, it still diminishes.

That's why Maharaj said to be with great saints.

The meaning of a great saint is not someone who has ascended to a high position or has become old and wise.

One who is dedicated to Maharaj's purpose and teachings, and promotes them, Maharaj called such a person Ekantik. If one takes the flaws of such a saint, then even if one is doing good deeds, one will diminish. Otherwise, all those are means of progress.

So, in this, virtue, humility, and service.

So now, what should be the meaning, how should it be done?

What is the meaning of virtue, humility, and service?

The virtues of a great saint and of a great saint.

Take his virtues. Perhaps if one takes half or not, it doesn't matter much to him.

He shows humility towards him and joins in his service.

Then it increases.

Otherwise, no matter how many holes others take, it won't increase. Even if they do more than that, it won't increase.

It is said in this Vachanamrut that the purpose of Maharaj saying the Vachanamrut is that even if one does satsang, one does not progress.

He does not grow by serving.

And he doesn't grow by taking virtues either.

Maharaj said to only take virtues.

He doesn't grow by taking virtues.

Where to take virtue, humility, and service? What does that mean?

To make a mess.

If you want to grow.

What to do?

What does it mean, brother? Is virtue, humility, and service a way to increase or a way to decrease?

Eh?

What does Harivandan Swami say?

Take the virtues of a great saint.

Eh?

Speak loudly.

If we take the virtues of a great saint, then Maharaj said that it happens if one takes the virtues of a special person in a special situation.

If everyone takes it indiscriminately, then...

It happens.

It happens, what if it gets stuck?

So he is called a gentleman, he takes everyone's virtues.

A gentleman may be there, but he won't stay there.

Virtue does not go forward.

Even if he is a gentleman.

One should take the virtues of someone whose nature is to grow.

Those who are constantly diminishing in their lives, and if one takes their virtues, they also diminish.

Virtue, humility, and service mean that one becomes like him. If one becomes like him, then the other person keeps diminishing, and if one takes his virtues, serves him, and shows humility towards him, then...

It decreases.

He becomes like him.

So, the one who has an increase in Satsang.

And who has an increase in Ekantikpana (solitude) in God, or who is advancing God's mission, his virtues are humility and service.

So those are the ways to increase.

And stubbornness, pride, and jealousy.

What does that mean? What does it mean? Stubbornness, pride, and jealousy are ways to diminish.

He is stubborn in front of great saints.

Mother.

Jealousy.

He is stubborn in front of great saints.

With others.

If he keeps it, there's no problem. He should keep what he's supposed to keep, otherwise he'll diminish again.

Stubbornness, pride, and jealousy, what does that mean?

Ishwar Swami, what do you mean by that?

Where it is to be kept, not with great saints, but where Maharaj has said it.

To keep stubbornness, pride, and jealousy, to establish it in the present.

Maharaj said to keep pride or not to keep it?

To take virtues from great saints.

Eh?

That's it.

Where is it said to keep pride in the present?

In religion, one should keep pride in one's share.

There is no benefit in being humble before someone who has fallen back from Satsang.

Those who are going in reverse from Satsang, while doing Satsang, the car moves, then the horn keeps honking, 'tee tee tee tee'. But if one listens, it happens, right?

Where the car is going in reverse, keep pride there.

Sadguru Gunatitanand Swami says that virtue, humility, and service are the three ways to grow.

While stubbornness, pride, and jealousy are the ways to diminish.

Swami also says that some learn knowledge, that is, they learn virtues and keep growing, while others increase their body-consciousness and keep diminishing.

Some just stay as they are.

That's how the story is incomplete.

Some remain as they are until the end, with no change.

If they remain as they were when they came, until the very end, then they deserve thanks.

They remained as they were, they didn't lose their original capital.

From where?

How do they remain as they are?

So he neither takes nor gives anything.

That brother Santosh Nair, who wasn't coming in that teamwork, what does he say?

What was his principle?

To take help and give help.

We should not take anyone.

Eh?

Don't help him, don't take from anyone, don't give to anyone.

They will remain as they are.

Therefore, one should take virtues from the saintly devotees of God. Learning virtues is a way to grow.

When virtues come, there is also a possibility of pride.

When virtues come, one learns virtues, and then pride comes.

This is common.

Eh?

So, one should be humble and careful there.

Therefore, after virtue, humility is mentioned. When virtues come, there is a greater possibility of natural pride and arrogance, so it is said to learn virtues with humility.

To acquire virtues, to learn virtues, and to behave humbly and respectfully before them. Virtue and humility are also their ornaments. To serve the devotees of God.

If one has virtues and humility, and then serves the devotees of God, then those virtues and humility are considered worthwhile. The work is considered worthwhile.

If one has both virtue and humility, humility is a type of virtue.

But if one does not serve God and devotion to God, then that virtue has no meaning, no purpose. So, virtue, humility, and service.

Those are ways to increase.

Among the three ways to increase, service is the only one, but it is service with virtue and humility, and where is that service?

Towards God and such devotees of God, then he keeps growing.

If he gets entangled elsewhere and goes to show humility, goes to serve, and goes to acquire virtues, then while doing all this, he diminishes.

Some people have this question: some diminish while doing satsang, and some grow.

Virtue and humility are also their ornaments. Maharaj has said in the Vachanamrut that one should serve the devotees of God.

Therefore, to progress in life, especially on the path of salvation, one should serve the devotees of God with mind, action, and speech.

The other three reasons for diminishing are stubbornness, pride, and jealousy.

By opposing a devotee of God and being stubborn with them, there are many examples in the history of scriptures where people suffered losses.

There are many examples of this in the scriptures, such as Hiranyakashipu, Kamsa, Ravana, Rama Mandalik, etc. There are also many examples in the Sampraday of Raghunathdas, Nirvikalpanand, etc.

Did Raghunathdas have any virtues or not?

What was it?

He used to tell stories.

He used to do Gita.

He had mastered Ashtanga Yoga.

He used to tell good stories.

There must be something else good.

But where did the problem come from?

Nilkanth Varni.

Nilkanth Varni and Nilkanth Brahmachari had a problem.

That devotee's downfall was caused by opposition.

Therefore, one should not be stubborn with a devotee of God, but rather bow down, be humble, and not be proud.

If one keeps pride, then to maintain that pride, one has to be stubborn and also feel jealousy.

Therefore, if one is humble, one can progress; otherwise, one cannot.

Here in the Vachanamrut, it is written that a great saint, whose virtues and flaws are taken, either grows or diminishes.

In it, instead of writing 'true saint', it is written 'great saint'.

Why is it written like that?

These are the words of the Vachanamrut, and we should have doubts about them. Someone will say, 'One, two, three, one focus, two over three months,' like that.

Do you ever focus on this or not? One should focus on Maharaj's words.

Maharaj did not write 'true saint' here, and Maharaj wrote 'great saint'.

It is written 'great saint' for growth.

If it was written 'true saint', would it be wrong?

Taking the virtues of a true saint is like that, isn't it?

But many are true, but not all are great.

If they are true, they are called true, even if they are great.

If they are true, they are called true, even if they are great.

If they are true, they are all great, and if they are great, they are all true.

All great people are true, that's how it is.

It cannot be said that all who are true are great.

And all who are great are true.

Only then are they called great, only then are they called great.

Maharaj said so.

Eh?

The meaning of true is that if one lives according to Maharaj's commands and has saintliness, then there is less chance of flaws. And great means one who runs God's mission and is engaged in activities, there is a possibility of flaws in them.

God's incarnation.

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