And Narayan Brahmachari has asked, "Firstly, one who appears to be a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → does not attain the association of the great, and secondly, another is very afraid of associating with the great. What could be the reason for both?" The answer is, "For the one who does not attain association, it is because of a dislike for the actions of the great; that appears to be the only reason. And for the one who is afraid, it is due to laxity in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → in this birth or in past births." Tell me what you understood by this. Read it once more so it is clear. And Narayan Brahmachari has asked, "Firstly, one who appears to be a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → does not attain the association of the great, and secondly, another is very afraid of associating with the great. What could be the reason for both?" The answer is, "For the one who does not attain association, it is because of a dislike for the actions of the great; that appears to be the only reason. And for the one who is afraid, it is due to laxity in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → in this birth or in past births." So, what did you understand from that? One is a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → but does not attain association, so... It doesn't seem to be working. One is a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → and does not attain association, so what is the reason for that? Meaning what? That he does not go to them and perform seva. Affection is simply not developing. This is about a group. It seems Swami mostly spoke in reference to a group. Meaning, where 500 people lived—in the old days, there were 200 or 300 sadhus in temples in Junagadh, Vartal, Gadhada. 200 to 300 sadhus lived there. So, among them, there would certainly be a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → . When Gopalanand Swami lived, others would be living in different mandals. There would be 400 to 500 sadhus. Yet, he might not have developed affection for Gopalanand Swami. And it happens that—what is written here? "Does not attain the association of the great." Even if he is a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → , he cannot go near. He might not go near. And some, even if they are near, cannot connect. Both not being able to connect is common. But those, even when near, cannot connect. Read it again. And Narayan Brahmachari has asked, "Firstly, one who appears to be a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → does not attain the association of the great." In that, affection does not develop. "And secondly, another is very afraid of associating with the great. What could be the reason for both?" The answer... He is near, yet he is very afraid of showing affection. He is very afraid of going close with affection. So, what is the reason in both cases? The answer is, "For the one who does not attain association, it is because of a dislike for the actions of the great; that appears to be the only reason." He does not like their actions, so even if he is a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → , he does not connect there. A sadhu came there when we were in Rajkot, around '75 or after '80. Those sadhus are still there. Meaning, they had come to study. At that time, we had arrangements with a few sadhus to study and sit. He stayed, but then he got a bit frustrated, thinking, "Oh my, how can I live in this hustle and bustle?" Saying this, he left. He was indeed a mumukshu mumukshu A person in search of moksh. Tap to open in glossary → . But these actions did not suit him. All day long—they are used to, right from childhood, just holding a mala and turning it. Turning the mala for an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening. Doing other wandering around and such. They are used to that routine, whereas we have constant activity. So, because of his dislike, he cannot connect even with God's great devotee. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details