Maharaj said, "We ask a question to all the sadhus," that a devotee of God, upon leaving the body, becomes Brahmarup and goes to the abode of God; then what barrier remains between him and God? By which the master-servant relationship remains? Because the devotee of God also becomes just like God, who is independent and free from the coverings of time, karma karma Action. Deed. Any thought, word, or deed that will sooner or later reap its consequences. Karmas of a person are linked to their rewards (cause and effect). Bhagvãn is the giver of the rewards of the karmas; good deeds reap pleasant rewards, and bad deeds reap painful fruits. Karmas remain with a jeev until it has received its rewards. Tap to open in glossary → Therefore, what difference remains in him by which the master-servant relationship remains? That is the question." That which continues even after death and continues here as well, is called upasana. If there is some spiritual endeavor to be done after death, and that same endeavor is to be done here, then it is called upasana. If there is no connection with what happens after death, then it is called bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → All this that we do, like puja, prayers, and so on, is called bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → But if one does it with that connection, then that very same thing becomes upasana. If we are doing seva here, then that seva is bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → But the seva I am doing is so eternal, that even after death, it is the very same thing. If one does it with such a feeling and with that vision, then it is upasana. If one does it mindfully. And if one does not abandon it until death, then it is called faith (nishtha). Even if death occurs, if one does not abandon it, then it is called faith. But if one does it with a connection that extends beyond death, then it is called upasana. So upasana went a little further than that. Then, the paramhansas answered according to their understanding. And Maharaj, regarding after death, gave the essence of it like this, that even if he becomes like God—after death, he is bound to become like God, isn't he?—even if he becomes like God, he does not abandon seva. So that has been referred to as upasana in some places. Whatever happens, even if he becomes greater than God—though no one can—even if he becomes greater, he still performs His seva. If one has such a commitment, it is called upasana. That no matter what qualities, X, Y, or Z, arise, yet if our very life is the seva of God, then it is called upasana. Then, the paramhansas answered according to their understanding, but Shriji Maharaj's question was not resolved. Then all the sadhus said, "O Maharaj! The answer to your question will only be resolved when you yourself give it." [blank] Then Shriji Maharaj said, "The answer to it is this: a devotee of God, in the way he has known God, who is possessed of such power, such splendor, and is the embodiment of such bliss; in that manner, to the extent that the devotee has known the glory of God, and has known God to be possessed of such majesty; when that devotee leaves the body and goes to the abode of God, then the form and power of that devotee also become just like that. Even then, the power, beauty, and other majesties of God appear exceedingly great to that devotee in God." This is not the reality. So, the extent to which the muktas knew the glory of God is not the only reality. The reality is far greater than that. It is just that his capacity to know was only this much, so he knew that much. He received that much. And as he knows more and more, he keeps receiving more and more. That must be why differences were made, right? That is why there must be a difference between anadi muktas and these muktas. They have been knowing for a long time and keep increasing. There must be a place for spiritual endeavor there too. And if there were no place for endeavor, it would be like a chaotic kingdom with a foolish king. Even up to there. If everyone were equal, then no one would try. They would sit quietly, thinking, 'What is there for us now? We have achieved it.' So, the fact that they are eagerly engaged means that there is endeavor and justice for endeavor there. It is true that if they have no endeavor, they do not return here; it is not like that. But for the bliss of God and the pleasure of God, they constantly make endeavors. That itself is their life. And this master-servant relationship means that they constantly have a yearning in their minds to please God more, to please God more. Those muktas certainly have this. And as they please God and know more and more of His glory, they keep attaining that much. But God remains infinitely immeasurable. Then Shriji Maharaj said, "Purnamadah purnamidam purnat purnamudachyate purnasya purnamadaya purnamevavashishyate." Even if whole is taken from the whole, it still remains whole. So, all these are said to have emerged from Him, right? Even if all these attain from His divine powers, and even if it is as vast as an ocean, does it ever decrease or not? If someone uses something from the ocean, what is the measurement of that water nowadays? How is it measured? In gallons. Not gallons. Now, if it is canal water, then these many... It is not called gallons. What? Cusec meters. Cubic meters. Cubic meters. Cubic meters. These many cubic meters of water will be obtained from this. 1.7 million cubic meters was transferred from Godavari to Krishna Krishna 1) An avatãr of Bhagvãn. He incarnated in the svarup of a cowherd. This is considered to be a greater avatãr than the others, as Shree Krishna possessed all of the powers of Bhagvãn, whereas other avatãrs possessed less power. Shree Krishna conveyed the message of love and humanity to the world. Also, He recited the epic poem, the Bhagvad Geetã, to Arjun in which He stated: ‘Whenever dharma declines and adharma increases, I shall incarnate myself as a human to save the holy, to destroy the sin of the sinner, and to establish dharma. I come into being from yug to yug’. 2) In the Vachanãmrut, Shreeji Mahãrãj also uses the name “Shree Krishna” to describe Bhagvãn Purushottam Nãrãyan. Tap to open in glossary → 1.7 million cubic meters of water will be obtained in a year. So, does the water of Godavari decrease or not? It does. So, if all these attain by taking infinite cubic meters from God, then does it decrease from God or not? So, it does not. "Purnat purnamavashishyate." That is, if some is subtracted from the whole, even if the entire whole is subtracted from the whole, it still does not decrease. If a little is subtracted, it certainly does not decrease, but even if the entire whole is subtracted from the whole, only the whole remains. Only the whole remains. Nothing incomplete remains. It never becomes incomplete. Such is His nature. Such is God's nature that He never becomes incomplete. No matter how much someone draws from Him, though, such is the very nature of knowledge, and such is the nature of the muktas too, that no matter how much someone takes from them, no matter how much favor they bestow upon someone, or how much others take from them, it does not affect them. If someone learns the style of a mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → One has to learn the style of a mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → So, if someone learns the style of a mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → What? What happens? Does it increase or decrease? In whatever way they understand it, but in the real sense, someone is a mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → Gopalanand Swami is there, Gunatitanand Swami is there; they are muktas. And the method of that mukta mukta Free. Released. A liberated soul. A resident of any dhãm of Bhagvãn who has been freed from life in the lower loks to a more spiritually elevated state. There are varying levels of muktas: the muktas of Badrikãshram, Shvet-Dvip, Vaikunth, and Golok. The highest level of mukta, akshar- mukta, has attained ultimate kalyãn and is free from the bondage of Mãyã and the cycle of births and deaths. [Sãrangpur – 17]. Tap to open in glossary → So, Balmukund Swami learned that style from Gunatitanand Swami. All the eight to ten sadhus who were his disciples, Yogeshwar Swami, Mahapurushdas Swami, and others, learned it. So, does Gunatitanand Swami's decrease or what happens? It increases. This thing itself is like that. So, regarding Maharaj, does it increase or decrease? What happens? It was said that it increases. "Swaminarayanovijayetataram." What does that mean? Keep constantly attaining victory, keep constantly increasing. Keep constantly increasing. It was not said 'vijayate tamam'. But, "Vijayatetaram." 'Vijayatetaram' means His chances of increasing. Keep increasing more and more, more and more. So, when the muktas learn Maharaj's style from Him, when they learn Maharaj's style, does Maharaj's increase or decrease? It increases. Maharaj's increases. So, it does not decrease. Even if there are infinite muktas, Maharaj just keeps increasing as He is. Can one who keeps increasing be called whole or not? If he keeps increasing, can he be called whole or not? If there are these children, who went from first to second, second to third, and reached seventh, and still more is left to increase, has he completed his studies or not? Can he be said to have completed his studies or not? Then what about Maharaj? Maharaj is called whole. Maharaj is certainly called whole; there is nothing else to think about. He is not like this, that's all. The ways that exist here do not exist there. "Purnamevavashishyate." Even if the entire whole is subtracted from it, only the whole remains. If one is subtracted from two, then? How much is it? Do you know or not? Jay Swaminarayan, you don't even know that math. Have you forgotten or do you know? If one is subtracted from two, what remains? Let them say. Or maybe they don't know. Since they learned the 64-line hymn, they must have forgotten the number one. If one is subtracted from two, what remains? And if one is subtracted from one, then? One. If one is subtracted from one, what remains? So, what remains? See, they don't know. Sadgun Swami, if one is subtracted from one... they would say, 'Who has even seen a school?' They used to study in the village school, being smart. If one is subtracted from one, what remains? Zero remains. So, did something decrease from one or not? What? When one was subtracted from one, did something decrease or not? Did it decrease or not? But if zero is subtracted from zero, then? Nothing. So, if zero was subtracted from zero, then? So, 'purnat' means the whole is indeed zero. One, two, three, nine, eight, nine, and zero. So, does it end there? It ended there; all these numbers are completed. Beyond that, even if there is a number in the billions, no number can exist outside of it. So, it ended there. So, zero is a complete number. So, it is called shunya (void). Shunya. So, it is a complete number. And if a complete number is subtracted from it, if zero is subtracted from zero, then what remains? So, did something decrease or not? AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. 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