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Nand Swami asked, "Oh Maharaj, by what quality does God become pleased with his devotee?"

Then Shriji Maharaj said, "The devotee who is free from lust, anger, greed, deceit, ego, jealousy, and envy, and performs devotion to God, God is pleased with him."

Among them, envy is the basis of all vices.

Therefore, Shri Vyasji has called those saints who are free from envy in Shrimad Bhagavatam as the true followers of Bhagavata Dharma.

Therefore, envy is subtler than all other vices, and it is very difficult to overcome envy.

All these are groups of inner enemies.

There is a group of lust.

And there is a group of ego.

So this is envy.

Lust and other inner enemies, God created this world

So, for the sustenance of creation, God also created the body.

So, a person cannot become zero from that.

But it doesn't come in its blow.

If one observes the vows, one can avoid its grasp.

That one cannot do at all.

And this ego is man-made.

Envy arises from ego. Maharaj mentioned it in the previous Vachanamrut, didn't he?

That envy comes from ego.

So, ego is not something that God created to sustain this world.

It is created by the jiva. It is created from ego. So it is jiva-created.

Therefore, Maharaj says it is very subtle and difficult to renounce.

The process of envy is not understandable.

Its procedure is not understandable.

That's why Maharaj called it very subtle.

Then Brahmanand Swami asked, "What is the way to overcome envy?"

In the eighth Vachanamrut of Sarangpur, Maharaj described jealousy as a form of envy, meaning jealousy belongs to the family of envy. All are said to belong to the family of ego.

Then Shriji Maharaj said, "One who walks on the path of a saint and is a saint, their envy is removed, and one who does not want to walk on the path of a saint, their envy is not removed."

Take it.

In the remedies for removing envy, Chandrayan and other vows were not mentioned.

Does one who performs the Chandrayan vow have envy or not?

On the contrary, it piles up.

So, if one performs the Chandrayan vow and fasts, envy is removed. Lust and other vices become subdued, but ego does not. So this belongs to the family of ego.

Envy does not subside, jealousy does not subside.

He says that understanding and following the path of a sadhu is the only way, there is no other remedy.

No means.

If one donates, envy is removed.

If one renounces, envy is removed.

Nothing like that.

Maharaj says that if one wants to walk on the path of a sadhu, one must first understand one's own envy and then try to remove it, only then will it be removed.

Otherwise, it won't be removed.

It will only be removed if one understands and removes it.

And lust and other vices, if one observes vows and fasts, they decrease. They slowly subside.

Then Muktanand Swami asked, "What is the cause of envy?"

Then Shriji Maharaj said.

A woman, wealth, and good food are the three causes of envy.

And for one who does not have these three things, ego is the cause of envy.

And whoever is envious, even when we gave clothes to this Bhat, he must have felt envy.

There is a story in the Mahabharata.

Sund and Upasund.

They were two brothers, demons.

And they were so powerful that they started tormenting the whole world.

So he performed two austerities, and God was pleased.

And he asked that we should never die.

God said, "That's not possible. There's no such thing as not dying."

There is such a remedy, ask for something else.

So no one can kill us.

God says, "That's how it is."

It cannot be done.

Ask for something particular.

So he said that no one else can kill us.

If we kill, we two brothers will kill each other.

We kill each other with our own hands.

But both of them had so much overconfidence and so much affection that there would never be any discord between the two brothers.

Both of them were so devoted to each other.

So God said, "So be it."

Even if you both have affection.

Then the gods became worried that Maharaj, those two are united, and now how will they die?

Maharaj said, "Let's find a solution." God said, "Let's find a solution."

Then he created an apsara.

So he sent that apsara to where they were working.

Almost Tilottama.

That was the name of the apsara.

There was no such apsara in heaven.

He created that apsara.

And these two brothers were bachelors.

So that apsara went there.

So he said that both of them were enchanted by this.

So one said, "You marry me."

The other said, "You marry me."

So that apsara was created by God, so she said, "No, both of you come together."

I will marry one, not both, she said.

I will marry one.

You two decide who you want to marry.

I have no problem, whether it's this one or that one, you are both brothers.

So then, leaving the apsara, those two said, "Not you, I will marry," and the other said, "Not you, I will marry."

They both fought over it.

And both of them fought and both died.

Maharaj says that jealousy arises from women, wealth, and taste.

Jealousy arises from that.

This story was told by Dhaumya Rishi to Maharaj Yudhishthira, gathering all the Pandavas.

When? When they came back after winning Draupadi in the swayamvar.

Draupadi had five husbands, didn't she?

So if you don't pay attention, it will be like Sunda and Upasunda.

And all the brothers will fight and die.

So, rules must be followed.

The rule is that Draupadi stays at one brother's house for 72 days.

The year is divided into five parts, and five parts.

Then he made a rule that if Draupadi is sitting with one brother, and another brother goes there, he has to go to the forest for 12 years.

He came after seeing it by mistake.

If another brother goes to his house, and if both of them are sitting there, even if they are just sitting and talking, and he goes there, he has to go to the forest for 12 years.

Once Arjuna had to suffer, he had to suffer in the forest.

Yudhishthira and Draupadi were both sitting.

And Arjuna's weapons were in that room because the cows were being abducted.

So Arjuna ran and brought the weapons from that room.

But there was this rule, wasn't there, that he had to go to the forest for 12 years.

Yudhishthira said, "No problem, you don't need to go."

We both were sitting peacefully and just talking, and you came, so it's not like something big happened.

No, then Arjuna said, "A rule is a rule."

So he alone had to suffer in the forest for 12 years.

So these are the stories of women.

That jealousy arises from women.

Those who are drawn to the attainment of women, the attainment of wealth, women, wealth, and good food.

One who has an excessive craving for it, gets mosquitoes.

It doesn't mean that it arises from women, but there is a demand for women, isn't there?

There is a demand for wealth.

And there is a demand for food, that I should get this thing better than all others.

Even then, he gets mosquitoes.

These are all demands.

And there is a demand for respect.

Then Maharaj said, it is mentioned in these three, isn't it?

That these three things, those who don't have these three things, meaning renunciates don't have them.

There is nothing of a woman, no wealth.

And Maharaj forbade good food.

Even if he did, we still eat, but still.

Maharaj, but with me.

If there is a demand, then he will not be able to live without jealousy.

Apart from that, respect.

So Maharaj did not refuse respect.

Why would he say that you should not wear a garland?

Some sadhus have to wear a garland.

So there is a demand.

So, the one whose soul awakens the demand for these four things, he cannot live without generating jealousy.

First, jealousy arises.

He does not sit peacefully.

Then Muktanand Swami asked, what is the purpose of generating jealousy?

We don't call saints, saints.

The first one to fight says that I should not be in the second place anywhere.

If it is, then in the first place, if you don't want to keep it in the first place, then in equal.

But my chair or my seat should not be in the second place anywhere. If you consider this person's pride and jealousy, then it is a living being. If someone worships one person and not another, then it becomes difficult when they are equal. Then if jealousy does not come, it is good.

Maharaj says, why not? If one wants to walk on the path of saintliness, then it will not come.

He has already decided in his mind that he wants to renounce jealousy and become a sadhu.

Vyasa Bhagwan called him a sadhu.

Dharma pragjit kaitavotra paramo nirmatsaranam satam.

In the Bhagavat, such a secret is given that a saint free from jealousy can attain it.

A saint free from jealousy can taste its essence.

If there is jealousy, he will not be able to taste it, he will remain in the act of flying it away.

So, a saint free from jealousy can taste the essence of God.

And those who are jealous can taste the essence of all these.

Without becoming free from jealousy, the essence of God does not come into his hands.

Then again, it is very wonderful.

Very wonderful.

The one who is jealous does all the spiritual practices.

Mostly, what kind of rituals does a jealous person perform?

He only performs religious rituals.

He performs religious rituals, rituals of virtues, and rituals of spiritual practice.

Jealousy is the only one that makes one perform rituals of virtues.

Not of vices.

It cannot be called a ritual of vices.

If there is taste, then it makes one perform the ritual of tastelessness. It does not make one perform penance. Huh? It does not make one perform penance. It does not make one perform penance. If there is greed, then it makes one perform the ritual of generosity.

Jealousy is the only one that makes one perform the ritual of charity, the ritual of selflessness, and all other rituals.

If someone feels jealousy towards someone, then who does he feel jealousy towards?

It's the same platform.

It's the same platform, and he's better than himself.

If he is weaker than himself, then there is no question of him being jealous.

If he is better than himself and the platform is the same, then he becomes jealous of him.

So, the good one is always ahead of him in every way.

And he is ahead in virtues.

So, he has to perform more rituals of virtues than the other one. And he performs more rituals. And yet he gets no fruit.

One has to perform spiritual practices and attain the essence of God.

Suppose we want to do japa by performing spiritual practices, then we do a lot of japa, or we want to do penance, or we want to please God, or if a person performs any spiritual practice to please God, then he performs it only if he gets the essence of God from it.

If we want to do a discourse, then he gets the essence of God.

One person performs the discourse with the essence of God, and another person performs the discourse with jealousy.

So, does the jealous one perform a good discourse, or does the one who performs it with the essence of God perform a good discourse?

Who does it?

The jealous one.

He sees how the other person is doing it and thinks, 'I must do it better than him.'

One person performs kirtan with the essence of God, and another person performs kirtan with jealousy.

So they all went.

There was a problem, he had a war with a Gandharva named Chitrarath.

And before they even reached the Pandavas' camp, the war had already begun.

They must have been a little closer, and the war started.

So the Gandharvas beat them all up so badly, they beat them up so badly and hit them a lot.

After beating them, they drove them like donkeys in front of their wives, crookedly.

Say, come on.

And all of you come to our camp.

And he told those old women, "You come driving behind them."

They drove them like that.

From that, while this war was going on, one of his servants broke free from there.

He broke free and knew that it was Yudhishthira and the Pandavas' camp, so he ran there.

And he started saying, "Save me, save me, save me."

So Yudhishthira said, "What is it?"

So he said, "Karna had come like this."

Bhim and everyone else already knew that.

So Yudhishthira called Bhima and Arjuna and said,

Go quickly and free him quickly.

Bhima said, "No, no, we'll go, but a little late."

Let him a little bit

Let him finish eating all the methipak.

So

And Yudhishthira said, Bhima was giving orders, so

Yudhishthira said, "Then, brother, no one can suppress it."

Then go

And these two, Chitrarath, was then Arjuna's friend.

And he had won him in battle.

So he said, "When you need help, tell me."

So both of them went there.

So the Gandharvas honored him.

So Arjuna told him to let him go.

Then they freed him and brought him.

But all of them were there, so Duryodhana became very moodless.

Why did he become moodless? Because he was made to do this in front of his family.

In front of our family, they drove us like donkeys and animals.

So he became moodless everywhere.

He wouldn't get in the mood for anything.

So then Karna and Shakuni thought that he wouldn't get in the mood for anything.

Let's perform a yagna.

And let's perform a Rajasuya Yagna.

When the Rajasuya Yagna is performed, he will get in the mood.

So the Brahmins refused.

That as long as the king who performed the Rajasuya Yagna is alive, no one else can perform it.

Because he has conquered all the chakras, meaning he has achieved victory, right?

So until then, no one else can do it.

So as long as Maharaja Yudhishthira is alive, we will not perform it.

So no matter how much dakshina you give, we cannot do it.

So he made it difficult for him.

Then he decided to perform a Vishnu Yagna.

So they said, "Perform a Vishnu Yagna, but not a Rajasuya Yagna."

So then he performed a Vishnu Yagna.

After performing the Vishnu Yagna with great pomp and show, Karna took a vow in it.

That I will never let anyone wash my feet.

What to do until when?

That until I kill Arjuna, I will not let anyone wash my feet.

And whoever asks me for anything, I will not refuse them.

He took a vow of charity.

Anyone can ask me for anything.

That's why, you saw, he took off his armor and earrings and gave them away.

And if someone asks, I will never say no.

Until I finish Arjuna.

This is my vow to please Duryodhana, to bring him into a good mood.

So

Karna performed the ritual of giving all these donations, a great donation. No one can be called a donor like Karna.

Lord Shri Krishna would pale in comparison to him.

But why did he do it?

Out of envy.

Out of jealousy.

He took an asura vow, it is written in the shloka that this is my demonic vow.

A vow taken to harass someone is called an asuri vow.

So, donation

So, the one who has envy, he performs the best rituals in his life.

He performs the best rituals.

This flaw of envy is the only one that makes you perform weak rituals, all other flaws do.

There is greed.

There is lust.

There is taste.

All of them make you perform weak rituals.

This envy is the only one.

And he belongs to the lineage of pride, so pride also makes everyone perform good rituals.

If someone is doing good, he makes them do even better.

And he gets no fruit.

That is called anushthan, so Maharaj says it is very subtle.

If someone is doing good, how would he know if he is doing good or bad?

Karna used to donate.

Duryodhana used to perform yagnas, he used to feed Brahmins, he used to feed more than Yudhishthira.

So how can he see the mosquito?

So Maharaj says it is very subtle.

He does good.

He maintains saintliness.

He performs all the anushthans of saintliness, all the virtues, except for envy.

So who is considered a saint in saintliness?

It's not like he's just acting or pretending.

He performs real anushthan.

He performs penance.

Even then, this envy makes him do it.

Envy makes him perform real anushthan.

So it is so subtle that it makes you do good work but gives weak results.

It makes you do good work.

You get weak results.

So from what did Karna get envy?

Hey, Karna today

From Draupadi.

Envy arose from Draupadi.

Then Muktanand Swami asked, "What is the purpose of generating envy?"

Then Shriji Maharaj said, "One woman, wealth, and good food."

Other weak qualities are faults, all their anushthans are inferior. Only the anushthans of envy are very, as it were, excellent anushthans, such anushthans that no one else can perform, and yet no fruit is obtained.

Only the anushthans of envy are all very, as it were, excellent anushthans, such anushthans that no one else can perform, and yet no fruit is obtained.

So Maharaj said that for those who are free from envy, for those who want to taste the essence of God, they have to remove envy.

All anushthans are to be performed.

But not with envy.

He has to remove envy.

Then he will get the essence of God from that anushthan.

Otherwise, it won't come.

So Maharaj said that only those who want to renounce can do it; those who don't want to, cannot.

One woman

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