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Swaminarayan Hare, Swaminarayan Hare.

On the fifth day of the bright half of Bhadarva in Samvat 1877, Shriji Maharaj was seated on a cot in the veranda of Jiva Khachar's room in the village of Sarangpur.

And everyone was wearing white clothes.

And in front of his lotus-like face, an assembly of sadhus and devotees from various countries was gathered and seated.

Then Paramanand Swami asked a question,

It is said in the Shrimad Bhagavatam that Shri Narnarayan Rishi, residing in Badrikashram, performs austerities for the welfare and happiness of all human beings in this Bharatkhand.

Then why do all human beings not engage in the path of welfare?

Then Shriji Maharaj said, "Its answer is in the fifth canto of the Shrimad Bhagavatam. The austerities that God performs are for the sake of His devotees, but not for the sake of non-devotees."

How? Knowing that this human body is extremely rare in this Bharatkhand, those who take refuge in God and perform devotion to God, for the sake of their grace, Shri Narnarayan Bhagwan, whose attire is like that of an ascetic, performs great austerities with His grace.

And those qualities like dharma, jnana, vairagya, upasham, and aishwarya, which are constantly present in Him in abundance, with those qualities, He performs austerities, and that God resides in Badrikashram until the night of the dissolution of this world.

And those devotees who reside in Bharatkhand, even if their qualities like dharma and jnana are very few, by the power of God's qualities and austerities, they attain great growth in a short time.

And after that, in the heart of that devotee, by the will of God, the Aksharbrahma-like effulgence appears, and in that effulgence, the direct darshan of Shri Krishna Bhagwan takes place.

In this way, those who are His devotees, their welfare is achieved without obstacles by the austerities of God.

But those who are not devotees of God, their welfare does not happen.

In this way, that is the answer to the question.

Thus, the 16th Vachanamrut of Sarangpur was completed.

God performs austerities for the growth and protection of the dharma, jnana, and vairagya of His devotees.

Not for non-devotees.

Who is a non-devotee and who is a devotee?

One who has taken refuge in God is a devotee.

So we have all taken refuge.

Huh?

Then why are they not all equal?

Then why are they not all equal?

If one has taken refuge, should everyone get the same, or not?

You sit down to eat, and they serve you very little, and to the other person,

And they make a pile for the other Swami.

So?

Brahm Swami does that, doesn't he?

He loves to make piles.

So?

So?

Narnarayan Bhagwan makes a pile in one place.

And in another place, He gives very little.

God does that.

We all have taken refuge, right?

Or is it less or more, brother?

What do you say, Swami?

What

What does Swami say?

One who has received a human body and has met God, and who has zeal and desire, for them, more austerity.

God must know that this one has a lot of zeal and this one doesn't.

Huh?

He knows everything.

What, Swami?

What does Saral Swami say?

In refuge, whatever contribution there is, according to that, distribution happens.

Distribution happens.

Distribution happens.

God must be keeping all that stock with himself, right?

There must be a place in Badrikashram, right?

And how does he distribute?

There are ups and downs in surrender.

In surrender, there are ups and downs, it's not like everyone has done it equally, right?

Or there are ups and downs.

You have done it deeply, and you have done that.

Why is there surrender?

He has performed this penance.

He does everything to please him.

Need, demand.

He distributes according to the demand.

Our surrender is the same for everyone, isn't it?

But is the demand the same?

The demand is not the same.

The need is not the same.

Since the need is not the same, then.

God makes ups and downs in distribution.

Look, they distributed a month's penance to you, but did nothing for us.

If we have food, he says you all have to eat your share.

So, he distributes according to the need.

In the Bhagavat, Maharaj said, it is written in the fifth canto.

How does God distribute his penance? So be it.

It is written there as 'atmavatam'.

Atmavatam.

God performs penance for a person who is atmavan.

So, what is the meaning of atmavan?

One who desires liberation.

He

One who desires liberation.

The meaning of atmavan is both.

Atma means Paramatma, and atma also means one's own consciousness.

The suffix 'van' is attached to it, making it 'atmavan'.

Vatu matu.

So it must have been used in that sense.

Maharaj translated it into Gujarati.

In Gujarati, it was said like this.

The person who understands the rarity of the human body and has a desire for God, who desires to walk on the path of God, receives the penance of God.

Others do not get it.

It is written there that not everyone walks.

Why don't everyone walk?

It's fine for everyone else, but we have all gathered here, and those with needs have gathered, so why isn't everyone getting equal distribution?

God must be doing that.

Distribution is not equal, right?

God must have a habit of doing that.

He gives a lot of distribution to one, Vishwamangal Swami.

Then he gives very little distribution to Krishnacharan Swami.

Say, do it in serving.

How much does he need?

That much benefit of God is received.

Did Narnarayan Bhagwan perform only one penance, or did Swaminarayan Bhagwan perform any penance?

He

Maharaj did more.

Who gets the benefit of that penance?

What penance did Swaminarayan Bhagwan perform?

He

What penance did Shastriji Maharaj perform?

Say something.

Shastriji Maharaj left his home and family, and Maharaj Swami was in the temple, and all the revered ones were there, and everything was there, yet he renounced it all and came here.

Establishing this organization is considered penance.

Or it just happens.

Without performing penance.

What is penance?

To endure.

To endure something.

So it happened without enduring.

Who gets the benefit of that?

He

To the later Nands.

To the later Nands.

But to whom?

He

One who has faith in Swami.

He

The real benefit, then, is 'atmavatam', meaning who gets the benefit of the path to moksha?

That benefit is received by all of us.

That is to be done in the best way.

All

Everyone gets it.

But if one understands the purpose for which Swami did it and then acts accordingly, then one gets the benefit; everyone gets it.

Not everyone gets it.

Even if everyone is sitting, they don't get it.

If one understands Swaminarayan Bhagwan for the purpose for which he performed tapas, and then makes efforts in accordance with that, then one receives the tapas.

Whatever Narnarayan Bhagwan does, if one acts accordingly, one receives it.

Others don't get it.

It's not like everyone gets it just by being a devotee.

We are all devotees, aren't we?

Or have we risen above the level of devotees, so we don't get it, while those two remain devotees?

So if he is sitting to do it, then who else will do it?

Huh?

He is sitting to help him, who else will he help?

Maharaj said that in this.

Whom does God help?

He helps those who make an effort.

It's not like he helps someone who just sits around with tilak and kumkum.

But God helps those who make some effort.

So what do you have to say?

It seems like they don't do it.

Sometimes a mumukshu falls behind.

Huh?

Sometimes a mumukshu falls behind.

So then what about him?

God's word.

So

What should we understand if a mumukshu falls behind?

The mumukshu considers that a flaw.

Huh?

He doesn't consider it God's fault.

He doesn't consider it God's fault.

God has given everyone a common facility.

After a common facility is provided, some use it more and some use it less.

What if someone does pranayama and takes in a lot of prana?

Huh?

Whose fault is that?

Is it God's fault or whose fault?

Someone can't even take it at all, like if Swamiji starts taking it, he gets dizzy.

So whose fault is that?

God has provided a common facility.

Swaminarayan Bhagwan has created a common facility by performing tapas.

Shastriji Maharaj has created a common facility by enduring hardships.

Now, in whose hands is it to take advantage?

And who gets it?

Huh?

God has provided all these facilities for becoming ekantik.

So why don't all become so?

Have you received the facility or not?

Did you receive the facility that Gopalanand Swami was given, or not?

Swaminarayan Bhagwan, that facility.

So Gopalanand Swami became Gopalanand Swami, and you remained Tirth Swami.

Huh?

Why is that so?

Why is that so?

There is no need.

There is not that much need.

There is a need.

But

There is no such need.

That's why Gopalanand Swami became like that, and we remained as we are.

As they became, so they became.

And if we don't wake up yet, we'll remain the same.

We'll remain the same, won't we?

If the need doesn't awaken yet, and we don't understand why God created all these things, and the need for it doesn't awaken, then we won't change.

God has created all this by making a great, great effort to create this satsang.

Gunatitanand Swami wrote.

He made a great, great effort.

And he created this satsang.

And for everyone, has God kept discrimination in it?

That this one gets so much and that one doesn't get so much.

Like that.

Has he kept anything like that?

If there is some wretched jiva, then?

Did he give equal facilities for him, or not for the wretched?

And for Gopalanand Swami and Muktanand Swami, VIP and VVIP.

Common.

And only those with a pass get entry.

Is that how it is?

Did Swaminarayan Bhagwan make all these facilities only for satsangis or for kusangis?

For whom?

For whom did he do it?

Huh?

Tell me, for whom did he do it?

For all souls.

Anyone can take advantage.

Only his satsangis take all the benefits, is that so?

Has God kept it that way?

He hasn't kept anything like that.

This is fine for him.

And if someone else wants to take advantage?

To those other than satsangis?

Then?

They can take it.

So then, does God distribute to him or not?

He has performed that penance.

Huh?

Or not?

He does it for everyone.

At God's home, there is no such thing as 'mine' or 'yours'.

This is just a division into certain classes, that this one is his dependent.

And this one is not his dependent.

But whose jivas are all of them?

And when God distributes, who makes it 'mine' or 'yours'?

So when God distributes, what is his measurement?

On what basis does he measure it?

Huh?

If someone has a need, even if he doesn't have a tilak-chandlo, he still gives it to him.

And if he has a need, or doesn't have a need, and is sitting next to him, then?

God is not one to be deceived like that.

That he is sitting next to him, so he is a great devotee.

If he's sitting next to him, he must be a great devotee, right?

Huh?

It's not like that.

The more one's need awakens, the more benefit one receives from God's penance.

God himself distributes to him.

He gives his own body to him.

God distributes so much to him.

He gives his own body to him.

He gives himself to him, saying, 'Take, use me as much as you want, because you have that much need.'

But he is not one to be deceived.

We go and sit next to him, where there is space, and then don't let anyone else do it.

So, it's not like God gets deceived.

Yes.

If someone is not a devotee of Maharaj and performs penance, does he receive Maharaj's pleasure?

If it matches Maharaj's resolve, then he will definitely get it, why wouldn't he?

So, dependent

Swaminarayan, isn't Krishnapriya Swami talking about one person?

He later became a sadhu in Maharaj's time, Ramanujanand Swami.

He was indirectly connected before.

And he used to do the business of interest and discount.

He was doing the business of interest and discount, and once he went to collect money.

And he had collected some money.

Thieves fell behind him.

And then he ran.

He ran and made such a resolve; he was from a village near Vartal.

He must have heard the name of Swaminarayan Bhagwan, but he had not seen Swaminarayan Bhagwan.

He said, 'Oh Swaminarayan Bhagwan, if you are God, then save me.'

If you are God, then save me.

So, Maharaj came there.

With his horse, the thieves were behind him, he was running, behind him were the thieves, and behind them was Maharaj with his horse.

And he caught everyone and gave them a good beating.

He said he made them forget everything.

Run away.

Then Maharaj disappeared.

Maharaj disappeared.

Then he directly thought in his mind that he saved me.

Swaminarayan Bhagwan.

and

And if those thieves had found me, they would have killed me.

I haven't yet done anything for the salvation of my soul.

So much of my life has passed.

You haven't done anything good for my soul yet.

What would have happened to me? Where would I have gone after dying?

So, he didn't go to his village and went straight to Vadtal.

And he took the money he had and gave it to Maharaj.

He had come to collect debts.

Maharaj, please make me a sadhu.

And Maharaj made him a sadhu and named him Ramanujanand Swami.

And he lived in Junagadh with Gunatitanand Swami.

So, where was he a devotee of God?

He was not Maharaj's.

After becoming a devotee of Maharaj, Maharaj...

Did he protect him before becoming Maharaj's devotee or after?

He did protect him. It's salvation. Does salvation happen or not?

Salvation does happen then.

Even if there is no refuge.

Refuge, then, if there is a need, refuge will surely happen.

Just as we understand refuge,

it's not that refuge is only achieved if one speaks of Kaal, Maya, and sinful actions.

If one is indirectly connected and performing austerities, but not a devotee of Maharaj.

If one doesn't know Maharaj, it won't happen.

Then he won't get the fruit of his penance, the fruit of Maharaj's penance.

Then he won't get the fruit of his penance.

So Maharaj said that if one takes human birth in Bharatkhand, understands its importance, and understands God, then it happens.

Why does he perform penance for Nar Narayan Bhagwan, and if I match both of their frequencies, then he gets the benefit.

Swaminarayan Bhagwan has made such a resolve here, so I perform such penance.

Then he gets it.

Then, even if he hasn't committed any sins of Kaal, Maya, or karma, he still gets it.

He makes such a resolve.

For God, there is no such thing as 'mine' or 'yours'.

One should face each other with resolve.

Then, even if all these gross processes haven't happened to him, it can still be done.

And if the gross process has happened, and he hasn't understood anything, like what I did.

If he doesn't understand, then God will do it, won't he?

If one understands Swaminarayan Bhagwan, and understands why he came, what his purpose was, and responds accordingly, then it happens to him.

Then, even if he hasn't applied a tilak or chandlo, it still happens.

Like that.

And even if he doesn't do that.

This is just a psychology of rituals in his mind.

That when we wear such saffron clothes, our resolve changes.

If he wears a dhoti, or white clothes, his resolve still changes.

And if he wears pants and a shirt, his psychology is different.

Those clothes change the psychology so much.

So, it's not that these rituals are meaningless.

It changes the psychology.

That I have taken refuge in God.

So his psychology, his thinking, changes.

But it's not that everyone's changes.

Does everyone's change equally?

Many people, even if they swallow everything, their thinking doesn't change.

Even if all those whom God has made have swallowed it, their thinking doesn't change.

So, all these rituals have been prescribed by the scriptures to change one's thinking.

God can be approached directly.

If a jiva has not gone through any of these rituals and wants to directly approach God, then a direct approach happens.

God has kept the doors open for everyone.

I am equal to all beings.

All Maharajs are all equal.

Where did he perform these rituals?

And Maharaj gave him a direct miracle.

He said, "Oh God, if you are God, if Swaminarayan Bhagwan is indeed God, as everyone says he is."

What did he say?

He said, "Everyone says that Swaminarayan Bhagwan is God. If you are God, then protect me."

That was all there was to it.

So Maharaj immediately protected him.

So he hadn't done any tilak or chandlo, and he hadn't committed any sins of Kaal, Maya, or karma, and all that.

And even then, Maharaj protected him, but if we cry out, he won't do it.

We are sitting here having committed sins of Kaal and Maya.

So, who does God protect, and who benefits from God's penance?

The one who has a demand.

And then he knows God.

That only He can fulfill such demands.

So, he approaches Him.

The approach is only mental.

All those are just external treatments. External treatments.

It's not that external treatments are useless.

Even with those, the mentality changes.

As we change all these external signs, the mentality changes a bit.

Because of that.

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