There is no basis of any eternal scripture, it is run on its own. By what is such a sampraday nourished? First of all, it is necessary to know what nourishment is. Nourishment means permanence. That activity continues for a long time. Secondly, how much is its prominence compared to other sampradays from a Vedic Vedic From the Veds. Tap to open in glossary → perspective, that can be called nourishment. Countless mumukshus accept it, meaning numerical strength is also considered nourishment of the sampraday. In this Vachanamrut, Maharaj's question is that after the establishment of the sampraday, by what means does the sampraday progress in the matters mentioned above? Muktanand... Three points came up for nourishment, which ones? One is permanence. Stability. Secondly, to remain in the same form. For a long time. The Jains have such austerities, meaning austerities are what everyone has to perform, young and old, elderly women and children, everyone. Because it remained a dry sampraday, there is not much other corruption. So for a long time, it remained as it was established. It might not be exactly the same, but better in comparison to others. A little, because there is nothing else in it. There were fewer places to observe. And yet, there are bound to be loopholes in it. So, if it remains in the same state for a long time, and its principles are not diluted, then it is called nourishment. And if numerical strength increases, it is called nourishment. But if numerical strength increases while maintaining this, then this is true nourishment. If numerical strength is increased by compromising this, then that is not nourishment. In this Vachanamrut, Maharaj's question is that after the establishment of the sampraday, by what means does the sampraday progress in the matters mentioned above? Muktanand Swami replied that the scriptures related to the sampraday, the followers' adherence to the varnashram dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → prescribed by the eternal scriptures, and firm faith in one's Ishtadev, these three nourish the sampraday. Then Maharaj asked the same question to Sadguru Sadguru A great sant. Tap to open in glossary → Brahmanand Swami and Sadguru Sadguru A great sant. Tap to open in glossary → Nityanand Swami as well, and they also gave the same answer that Muktanand Swami had given. Then Maharaj said, "Let Us answer that question." The scripture that describes the life of one's Ishtadev from birth to the leaving of the body, by that scripture, the sampraday is nourished. Whether that scripture is in Sanskrit or in a vernacular language, the sampraday is nourished by it. In it, the Ishtadev's... Just that Maharaj means to say that merely talking about principles, talking about principles does not nourish it. There must be role models of the principles, there must be examples. Lead by example. So Maharaj then said that the struggles that the Ishtadev underwent, and all the pastimes of struggle that the Ishtadev performed, nourish it even more. Then Maharaj gave the second place to the founder. The original founder, the struggle he endured must have been endured for the principles. We say that this Gurukul is not a sampraday but an institution. So how is this institution nourished? So the struggle that Shastriji Maharaj endured, the work he did for the principles, and the struggle endured by Purani Swami and Kothari Swami and others to protect the principles, those events, if they are deeply understood by the subsequent people, then the sampraday... the institution is nourished. Similarly, there are Maharaj's principles. And the struggle that Maharaj and the Nand saints underwent, and the struggle that the devotees underwent, and why they underwent that struggle, if all of that is properly internalized by everyone, then they are nourished within the sampraday, and only by seeing all those struggles, by seeing its true quality, other people entered the sampraday. By seeing its quality. If they were all scoundrels, then those people would run away, even the good people would run away. But seeing its quality, even great mahants and heads of monasteries started coming. They came after seeing its quality. Whether that scripture is in Sanskrit or in a vernacular language, the sampraday is nourished by it. In it, the purpose of the Ishtadev's birth on earth is also included. In their conduct, dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → is also included, and the glory of the Ishtadev is also included. Without struggle, principles are not highlighted. If they just go along eating and drinking, what is the principle? And how would anyone know what their principle is? They have to face struggle, and when challenges come, then what principle lies within them or what does not, becomes immediately clear. So such incidents highlight the sampraday. They give a highlight compared to others, showing that look, there is a specialty in this. And to show its specialty over others is indeed its nourishment. And seeing that, the numerical strength also increases. Therefore, the sampraday is nourished by such scriptures. But no specific sampraday is nourished by eternal scriptures like the Upanishads, Brahmasutras, or the Gita. Muktanand Swami mentioned the scriptures of the sampraday, adherence to varnashram dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , and firm faith in the Ishtadev for the nourishment of the sampraday. When Brahmanand Swami and Nityanand Swami were asked, they also showed the same. But Maharaj did not consider that answer sufficient and gave a further answer, so what deficiency was seen in it and what special thing did Maharaj say, that is necessary to consider. This is a very, this is a very important point. So compared to the answer Muktanand Swami gave, what special did Maharaj... Maharaj... Muktanand Swami said to remain in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and perform bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → . Then the sampraday is nourished. So what did he say wrong in that? If one remains in adharma adharma Unrighteousness. Immorality. Sin. The opposite of dharma, which causes dharma to decline. Tap to open in glossary → , is it nourished? What wrong, what did he say wrong? So, so why did Maharaj change it? Why did he change it? Huh? Meaning, what did He complete? He added that much. And remaining in dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , that was also mentioned in that Vachanamrut, it was mentioned in Sudha Sindhu, right? That dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → , and numerical strength. These three were called nourishment. What is in this is that compared to other sampradays... Which Vedic Vedic From the Veds. Tap to open in glossary → perspective of this? Huh? Its priority from a Vedic Vedic From the Veds. Tap to open in glossary → perspective. Priority. That is one nourishment, so there are four points. Everyone's life endowed with dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → . Everyone's life endowed with dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and its priority from a Vedic Vedic From the Veds. Tap to open in glossary → perspective. And thirdly, the pastimes of God, the pastimes performed for a specific purpose, those pastimes. Huh? Those pastimes are the ones that nourish. But nourishment is not that, nourishment is numerical strength. So Muktanand Swami answered, that in doing that nourishment, the devotees of God today, the followers, if they have a life endowed with dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → , if they have such conduct, then the sampraday is nourished. Maharaj said that if there are pastimes of God, then the sampraday is nourished. So what special did Maharaj say? And when Muktanand Swami said it, what was the deficiency in that? Meaning not all pastimes, but those which are pastimes of principles. Isn't it? So in that, if they all observe the pastimes of principles and those endowed with dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , then? What? Adherence to dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → is also nourished in the scriptures. Adherence to dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → is also nourished in the scriptures. And that is common to all. It is common to all, it is common in Vaishnav Vaishnav Follower of Bhagvãn’s various avatãrs, in particular Shree Krishna Bhagvãn. Relating to Vishnu. Tap to open in glossary → dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → as well. The quality of dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → , where is the value of dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → not recognized? And is dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → not valued in Ramanujacharya? Or in Vaishnavacharya? Or in Swaminarayan? Dharma Dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → are valued everywhere. In what matter, in what aspect do they differ from this? One who has dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → is the same, let's say he observes 80% dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → , or rather 100%, let's say. One person observes dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → 100%. And another person observes dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → 100%.So if one is different and believes in another sampraday, and the other believes in a different sampraday, then where did the difference lie? The sampraday is the Ishtadev. The Ishtadev, whom they accept as Ishtadev, is what creates the difference. Whom they accept as Ishtadev is what creates the difference, and as their number increases, they are added, nourishment also happens through that. There is also a need for people, like that. So that has not quite entered your mind yet, I feel. But this difference is very subtle. It is subtle, and that is why we have often discussed that outside of the sampraday, can there be lives of dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → for anyone or not? Can there be lives of dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → or not? Yes, there can. Then? Does that nourish our sampraday... does that nourish our sampraday? And does merely having those with dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → nourish the sampraday? No, it doesn't. It doesn't happen through that, if there is no Ishtadev. Maharaj asked, "Whom will you make the leader? Whom will you make the leader in the sampraday?" The one who has many thoughts... Saint, no, no. That is different. To consider as leader. Meaning, to consider as leader and to make a leader are very different things. What? What is the difference, brother Swamiji? To consider as leader and to make a leader, what is the difference between the two? Janmangal Swami, huh? Take an example, Mangal Swami is a leader regarding Maharaj. Or where did that Swami go? The one sitting at the back is a leader. To consider as leader... what is the difference? To make a leader and to consider as leader. To make a leader means he leads everyone. And to consider as leader means that these are great, to understand their glory. But if they say something, one does not have to obey. Who is a role model worthy of following? Leaders are considered great, to consider as leader means great. There are many great ones. But not all great ones are leaders. Whom to keep as a leader? Meaning, to make a leader. So what did Maharaj say in that? "Whom will you make the leader in our sampraday?" The one whose understanding is great... huh? Muktanand Swami and such... which Vachanamrut is this? It is Vartal 3, right? It is the third Vachanamrut of Vartal. Four types of leaders. Yes, four types of leaders. Read that, read a little of the preceding part. Then Shriji Maharaj said, "In our Uddhav sampraday, the one who possesses the four attributes of gnan, vairagya, dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , and bhakti bhakti Devotion to Bhagvãn. One of the four attributes of ekãntik dharma. There are nine types of bhakti: Tap to open in glossary → of God is called an ekantik devotee. And in our satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → , he alone is worthy of being made a leader." "And if those four are not complete, and only one is predominant, yet the remaining three are subsumed within it, which one is the best among those four?" Then Gopalanand Swami and Muktanand Swami said, "O Maharaj, dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → is such that if dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → is present, then all three attributes come to that person." Then Shriji Maharaj said, "Dharma Dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → is also present in some non-believers, so should he be in the satsang satsang 1) True company. The practice of associating with Bhagvãn’s sant, other satsangis, the ãtmã, and the sacred shãstras, and also observing vartmãns and niyams. 2) Also refers to the sampradãy, which is the presence of good company. Tap to open in glossary → ..." Non-believer, meaning Maharaj's meaning of non-believer is, though he cannot be called a non-believer if he observes dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , he would be a believer. But the meaning of non-believer is that he believes in another Ishtadev or is not in our sampraday. And it is common. Huh? General dharma dharma 1) Universal law or principle that 'sustains' or 'upholds' the entire world. Righteousness, morality, religion, Tap to open in glossary → , observing good conduct. If he observes good conduct, it is present in him too, so will you make him a leader? If we make him a leader, what will he do? He will take people somewhere else, lead them astray. AI translation of the Gujarati transcript above, produced in the same pass that transcribed the audio, one English segment per Gujarati segment. Devotional and technical terms with no precise English equivalent (kirtan, satsang, vasana, samskara, and similar) are kept as their plain transliteration rather than force-translated. Not human-proofread., AI-translated, unverified · Source details