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How to become devoid of interest in the five sense objects | Mahant Swami | Satsang Chintan

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A merchant, what is he attached to?

Money.

Is he attached to the customer?

When he closes the shop in the evening, where does his mind go?

Huh?

When he closes it, he keeps looking at all those pictures, thinking, 'Oh, that customer came, he didn't buy anything, but he was very handsome.'

He remembers like that.

So, very handsome.

When does he remember the customer? If he left without buying anything, then he remembers, 'If he had bought it, our profit would have been this much.'

Because he does that activity for profit.

He does it to increase profit.

So in the evening, he doesn't remember the customer, he only remembers the profit.

Similarly, if we spend the whole day doing activities to please God, then when we close our eyes, we should remember God.

No activity should be remembered.

If we remember God, then it is said that we have done activities for God.

It is the nature of activity to enter within us unknowingly if we don't pay attention.

So, when you close your eyes, that thing comes to mind.

But if we have properly clarified it and are aware of why we are doing it, then it won't come to mind.

So, are we doing activities to please God, or are we giving up activities to please God?

Then he won't remember this, it won't enter inside.

And the way to internalize the five senses is different, and the way to internalize activities is different.

The five senses, if we have attachment to them, then they enter.

And if we accept it only by understanding its necessity, then it won't enter.

Man also has needs, doesn't he?

If one wants to do devotion to God, then there is a need for it.

If there is a need and one doesn't do it, then it still enters.

If there is a need and one forcibly renounces it, then what will he remember?

Huh?

So, he reduces his needs.

In this, Maharaj said it is a natural quality.

Naturally, we don't remember the five senses.

It's not that they don't come to mind by force, or if they do, we forcibly remove them.

Naturally, we don't remember the five senses, and naturally, we don't remember activities.

So, when do activities not come to mind?

When I close my eyes.

Maharaj said that, didn't he?

Naturally, I don't even remember the activity, and then at five o'clock, we have to ring the bell after sleeping until six o'clock.

So, we don't remember.

It was time to ring the bell.

So, that activity is not remembered. Activities are not remembered even when we close our eyes.

And the five senses, they just don't come to mind.

So, he reduces his needs.

And he focuses on his needs.

What are my needs?

And what is that need for?

That this body is to be used in the service of God, to be used in the devotion of God, so it has a need.

And if he becomes connected enough to his needs, then the five senses will not enter within him.

Otherwise, it will enter inside.

If it's not a necessity and then you take a little, it still enters.

If one doesn't consider the necessity, then even if one takes a little, it still enters.

It's not that indulging in many worldly pleasures is the only form of body-consciousness.

To renounce after identifying is also body-consciousness.

Whose behavior did Maharaj call 'atma-rup' (soul-like)?

Whose behavior is 'atma-rup'?

Whose is it called?

Huh?

What the scriptures and the holy men have established as limits, and to accept according to their will and to renounce according to their will, Maharaj has called that 'atma-rup' behavior.

He renounces it out of necessity.

Then it's fine. Maharaj said that if the senses have become wild, then punishing them is a different matter.

But this is about naturalness.

It's about being natural.

Naturally, it fulfills its needs, and if natural needs are not fulfilled, then it reminds him.

What does it mean when it reminds him, that the five senses have entered within?

What is the meaning of the five senses entering within?

The five senses have entered within us.

Let's say we ate shrikhand or that ice cream.

How do you know if it has entered inside or not?

Then how much does he remember?

After eating, how much does he remember all day? Was it heavy, heavy, heavy, or light, light?

Today, the day was ruined.

The vegetable was very light, light. Today, the day was ruined.

And the ice cream was heavy, heavy.

So, after eating, if the five senses are remembered, or if they are remembered, what is the reason for that?

It's attachment.

There was more attachment than necessary.

There was more attachment than necessary.

If attachment increases, then it is remembered.

And if he holds on to his needs properly, then he won't remember it.

So, the need was fulfilled, so it's over.

The need was fulfilled, so it's over.

And there's no need to remember it. Many times, both need and attachment are present.

So, attachment has to be removed.

There is both need and attachment.

Suppose a person is very careful.

He says, 'This is my need.'

Then he takes only that much.

But there is attachment.

Then it comes to mind.

So, when attachment becomes zero, then it doesn't come to mind.

And in becoming free from attachment, renunciation and acceptance don't play that big of a role.

Because even if one renounces, if there is attachment, then it will be remembered.

And even if one accepts, if there is attachment, then it will be remembered.

How does attachment go away?

How does attachment go away?

Huh?

The objects of the senses turn away from the embodied soul who abstains from food.

Even the taste for them remains, but it also ceases when the Supreme is seen.

By seeing and performing devotion, attachment ceases.

If he truly gets the momentum of devotion to God and the momentum of service to God, then attachment ceases.

Otherwise, if he accepts, it remains, and if he renounces, it also remains.

One should accept according to the scriptures.

One should think and find a solution according to the scriptures.

It is said in this that liberation happens like that.

Renouncing does not bring liberation; on the contrary, it is said that 'rasavarjyam' (without attachment).

And it is remembered more.

If there is attachment and he renounces.

If there is attachment and he renounces, then on the contrary, he remembers it more.

So, it doesn't mean that one should not renounce.

Necessary renunciation should be done.

But after renouncing, one should learn to remove attachment, not to consider oneself a guru.

After renouncing, the attachment is removed only after renouncing.

After enjoying, he doesn't say that he has no attachment.

He keeps enjoying and says he has no attachment. Maharaj said that one should not do 'dhor langhan' (eating like an animal) on the day of Ekadashi fast.

So, what should be done?

Eat farrar.

Eat farrar, lock up, and go to sleep.

What does it mean not to do 'dhor langhan'?

Huh? To remove attachment.

So, after fasting, if there is attachment, one should remove that too, which means 'dhor langhan' is gone.

But going to sleep by suppressing it doesn't mean 'dhor langhan' is gone.

Maharaj said not to do 'dhor langhan' (eating like an animal) by fasting and renouncing any attachment that may be present.

He thinks, 'What's the point of this 'dhor langhan'?'

That day, one should eat a little more.

If it's farrar, and we ate grain yesterday, then there won't be much problem tomorrow. But if we only ate farrar yesterday, then it won't have as much strength as grain.

So, in the evening, a little extra again.

So, the meaning of 'dhor langhan' is that.

That one should remove that attachment.

Without attachment, without removing attachment, if attachment is just there and that thing is there, then it is called 'dhor langhan'.

It does come to mind.

So, one should try to remove attachment.

But Maharaj has not commanded to suppress it and go to sleep.

That, 'Oh, it's being heard, so let it be heard.'

Don't listen. If it's heard, what's the way to remove it? Sit down.

It's not like that.

The way to remove what is heard.

And what did he say was the solution?

By seeing the Supreme, it ceases. By seeing and performing devotion.

If one connects to the thread of devotion to God, if one connects to the thread of service to God, then that attachment is removed.

There is attachment in God too, even more than this.

If he starts taking that, then it will be removed even more than this.

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